Submitted 1 year ago by karpfenkalender@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://electrek.co/2025/03/16/tesla-autopilot-drives-into-wall-camera-vs-lidar-test/
As much as I like Mark, He’s got some explaining to do.
At 15:42 the center console is shown, and autopilot is disengaged before impact. It was also engaged at 39mph during the youtube cut, and he struck the wall at 42mph. (ie the car accelerated into the wall)
Mark then posted the ‘raw footage’ on twitter. This also shows autopilot disengage before impact, but shows it was engaged at 42mph. This was a seprate take.
If you watch the footage it’s clearly the same take.
From the twitter footage:
This is from the first couple frames showing that Autopilot is enabled, just as the blue lines appeared on screen: 42mph displayed on the center console.
And from the youtube footage:
Again, from the first couple frames as Autopilot is enabled, just as the blue lines appear: 39mph displayed on the center console.
They are very very similar, but they do appear to be two different takes.
He stated in the video he tapped the brakes. Doesn’t that disengage auto pilot?
They’ve also been killing motorcyclists in Canada, for the same reason.
Just paint a road on the back of every truck trailer.
The funny thing is that the YT comment section was almost immediately brigaded by Elmo suckups that complained the tester was using Autopilot and not the latest version of FSD, completely forgoing the point that the LiDar vehicle stopped despite any automation systems being turned on.
This was a test of the emergency braking systems of both cars in as close to real world scenarios as possible. Whether you run over a child in heavy rain or dense fog should not be dependent on whether the driver remembered to turn certain safety systems on prior to departure.
It’s a massive fail for Tesla, and it is the closest scientific proof that the Elmo is a rich daddy boy with shit for brains. Once you have that level of money and leverage, you simply can make the most stupid decisions ever, and keep falling upwards. Meanwhile real people are dying almost weekly in his vehicles, and reporters and news organisations are scared shitless to report on them because he can cause lots of pain with his imaginary cash. Not to mention no govt agency will investigate properly because he’s got root access to that too. All those deaths are entirely preventable.
Keep burning them, keep protesting at the dealerships. This truly could be the first billionaire we bring down. Watch him activate the OTA kill switch in every Tesla before they go under too. He’s thát kind of baby. Ironically that would save a lot of lives.
Lidar is clearly superior and Musk removed it because it was more expensive. The obvious conclusion is any self driving car should be made to use lidar and not simple vision based on cameras. Well at least not solely vision. Musk’s sycophants are just going to keep providing excuses and “whatabout’isms”. But there really is no doubt.
lumpybag@reddthat.com 1 year ago
The worst part about all of this, is Tesla has backed themselves into a corner with their aggressive marketing. If additional sensors are required it will cost them billions in retrofitting all the teslas it’s already sold. Partially believe that’s why Elon bought Donald.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You still think that musk’s company will deliver what musk promised. How the fuck is that possible?
lumpybag@reddthat.com 1 year ago
No that’s why I said I think it’s why he bought a president…
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s already going to cost them what I imagine is billions in upgrades.
On the last earnings call Elon finally admitted that HW3 will probably need to be upgraded for people who bought/buy FSD.
That’s millions of cars, and there’s been some rulings that the upgrade includes people who decided to subscribe to fsd instead of purchase.
Lawsuits aside from it never being complete, the moment whatever their latest tech is that can, even if it is somehow all cameras, is goi ng to lead to millions of cars needing upgrades.
However, if they truly solve it, that’s probably a drop in the bucket compared to the profits itd generate even if they have to add lidar.
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
I don’t want him driving my car either