Non-US alternatives to digital services

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• tdawg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So proton is out these days right? Does anyone have thoughts on fastmail?

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  • zraziel@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Proton is still a great product… easy to switch away from Google, especially if you don’t have the time to self host or manage the complexity of 5 different services. I am aware of recent discussion, and have decided for myself that overreacting is not necessary, though that’s up to you :)

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    • Eril@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nowadays I half suspect any tech CEO to have some questionable mindset (to say the least). So it seems more important to me, what the company actually does. I hope everyone complaining about Proton now also does not use Google, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, X, Apple products, and the list goes on. Their CEOs are definitely a lot worse.

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    • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are an intelligent person, as long as the service is not impacted, well you good

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  • jbaber@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fastmail is really, really nice.

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tuta > Proton

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only downside is that Tuta doesn’t provide an .onion service as Proton does (although they leak clearnet links left and right)… even though they apparently plan to.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I like they they only do email and calendar. It’s best to not keep too many eggs in the same basket, and the pricing for Proton seems to discourage that.

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  • refreeze@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Long time customer and super happy with Fastmail. Its a bit pricy but the service is great.

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    • subtext@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah it could be argued that Fastmail is less private than alternatives, but they make a damn good service. Plus email shouldn’t be used for secure communication anyways.

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  • riscwarez@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I joined Fastmail almost a month ago and am really enjoying it, I especially like the integrated masked emails.

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  • PetteriPano@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I went over to purelymail.

    It’s not fancy encrypted like proton, but it’s very affordable and straight forward to set up for your own domains.

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• DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  PeerTube seems fine for a YT alternative (only because it’s pretty much either it or Odysee, that’s what happens when you have an effective monopoly on user-generated content like YT does, and PeerTube IMO needs to take off sooner rather than later given how ridiculous YT’s censorship has gotten lately), and then of course Lemmy (this platform) is looking really good so far as a Reddit alternative and I’ve only been on it for a day now, ditto for Pixelfed as an Instagram alternative.

  And then of course there’s Mastodon for a Twitter/Facebook alternative.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Moderation is actually good on Matrix, also XMPP is a good alternative as well

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  • JOMusic@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    makertube.net is the PeerTube instance that I’ve been using, and it’s been great.

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  • JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Adding to this, pipepipe (for YouTube) on f droid is amazing. Not sure where it’s based but they do great work.

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• philpo@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Posteo is another alternative for Mail that a lot of people overlook.(And far more “real privacy” than fucking Proton)

  Bitwarden sadly still is a US company and while it hosts in EU as well, some might not think this is enough. In that case Vaultwarden can be selfhosted easily.

  It is not that much work to actually get rid of most possibly unreliable US services,but it’s far more work to get other people to switch as not all services are interoperable yet…

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  • hagelslager@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Question: why would you store passwords with an external service?

    I have a local database synched with SyncThing between phones and computers and an external copy on a server.

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    • philpo@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And your local database is encrypted?

      Vaultwarden is selfhosted and audited.

      Besides: Not everyone wants to selfhost and not everyone should self host.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sometimes I need a password when I don’t have my devices with me, and logging into the Bitwarden web vault is super convenient. Also, everything is encrypted on the client, and the client is FOSS, so there’s very little risk.

      You can also host your own Bitwarden server, or use an independent alternative (Vaultwarden).

      Bitwarden provides a lot of convenience without much compromise.

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  • JOMusic@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good points. I do believe Bitwarden is open-source though, so it can probably be forked off into a version that doesn’t host data in the US.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can always self-host it as well.

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• Lazycog@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A good post to mention !buyeuropean@feddit.uk.

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  • superkret@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The irony of this community being hosted on feddit.uk

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    • KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wait why’s it ironic? The UK is in Europe

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• AliasAKA@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bookshop.org just recently added ebooks, and I believe they have a UK store, for anyone trying to buy ebooks in a more ethical way. It allows you to select a local bookstore of your choosing and support them when you purchase books. They take a small fee to cover their warehousing and shipping I think, but pass along a lot of the profit (80%) to the local bookstore. They’re a certified b corp and their bylaws say they can’t sell to a major retailer (eg amazon).

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• scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They don’t do all of what Proton does, but for email Hushmail is run out of Vancouver. The free account is quite limited in terms of space though, but it’s free.

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• MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Looking for android app alternatives

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  • JOMusic@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Check out f-droid.org/en/

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• refreeze@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does anyone have a good recommendation for an S3 provider? I’m looking at Hetzner and OVH.

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  • philpo@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hetzner is rock solid in my experience (and I run multiple server with them both for private and business use). I really can’t complain.

    I have my S3 backups at Ionos these days, they are also fairly large, only marginally more expensive and so far it’s working well. Their cloud/VPS service (the proper one,not the consumer one) is also decent and offers a few (rarely needed) options that Hetzner doesn’t have.

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  • taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hetzner support is usually quite good, something I can’t say of the (albeit much more limited) experiences with OVH.

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  • oldfart@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hetzner’s S3 is immature, they just started beta last year, and are rough at the edges

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  • Toes@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think OVH would be a good choice.

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• Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What services specifically

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  • burgersc12@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you click the fucking link its mostly Google and social media alternatives.

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    • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And not to be a Debbie Downer, but most of these alternatives are trash each in their own ways. But it’s good to have options.

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