How extreme car dependency is driving Americans to unhappiness

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• kersploosh@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  An article about Americans.

  The picture shows a driver in the right seat.

  🤦‍♂️

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  • amon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    mirrored image my friend

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  • vext01@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The guardian is British, probably why.

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• Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I just want to share my perspective. I just had my car totaled (not my fault) and I decided to bank the insurance payout and not rebuy, and see what it was like. I didn’t think I’d cope since I’m now 50 and had a car my whole life from age 16.

  I’m actually a little shocked to say I don’t I miss the car, and further I actively enjoy not having a car anymore. It did necessitate rearranging some of my habits, but now I save a shitload of money and I seem to find it more convenient in more ways than I expected. And it’s just so much less stress and worry.

  I’ve never been fitter, and the freedom from lugging it around, gassing it up, washing it, maintaining, finding parking, blabla saves me time and bother almost everywhere. I stress so much less because of constant vandalism, and needing to seek stable non-ticketed parking at friends’ places and at my apartment.

  There are times I need to do a big shopping thing or just go to the beach, I rent a car for a day. I don’t need to live a life of deprivation I just re-balanced things. If I need to go out for some special occasion I cab/uber round trip.

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  • IMALlama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Preface: I’m jealous.

    That out of the way, I think this really depends on where you live and your job. Carless in single family detached housing suburbia does not sound like fun. Being carless seems like a no-brainer in a dense area with decent public transportation and/or within walking distance of your job.

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• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As I always say in posts about this topic: Living in a walkable city is nice. I can just walk outside and get groceries. No traffic. No fuel costs. No insurance. No maintenance. No parking. I just walk down the street and get stuff. If there’s a lot of stuff I need, I bring a cart, but I almost never need to do that.

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  • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    or to “damn i forgot something” and just… walk on back to get it without it being a big deal

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  • Kbobabob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Most of the places that I’ve looked at that are walkable are a lot more expensive to live. Unfortunately, I think this is a luxury that a lot of people do not have the means to access.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is probably true for a lot of places. I’ve mostly lived in the NYC area so I don’t know what the costs and expenses are elsewhere very well.

      You can get a 1BR apartment in Brooklyn for $2k/mo. That’s more expensive than some of my friends that live elsewhere pay, but cars are expensive so the actual cost is offset.

      Personally I think the government should be subsidizing urban living. Suburbanization was a mistake. It’s so isolating. We should have more public housing.

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    • ECB@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s definitely true. There are so few places that are really walkable in the US and the demand is quite high… once you live that way, it’s hard to go back.

      We really need to build more walkable areas, but it’s difficult for a lot of (mostly-nonsensical) reasons.

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  • astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Living in a walkable city is nice.

    This is so true! I was telling my family about that a few years ago when I was living in a semi-walkable place, and then they started grilling me about how long it takes me to do things. I had to concede that it does take longer to walk in some cases than drive, BUT the travel to and from is actually nice, and I look forward to the walk as time for looking around and enjoying my time. They didn’t understand, but they also will get in their car to drive a mile, so…

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s also a lot easier to stop and do something fun when you’re walking. Pop in a new shop, take a detour through a park, whatever. Usually when you’re driving you’re going too fast to really take in what’s around, and stopping is often a whole ordeal of finding parking.

      “Death and Life of Great American Cities” talked about this. It’s old, but still an interesting read.

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• PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Doesn’t help how owner-hostile modern cars are, either

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• Soup@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I moved to one of the few places in Canada where you can happily function without a car, where in fact I leave my car parked because driving it around would be stupid. I keep it only because driving it on track is a hobby of mine and because I find myself needing to drive to my hometown quite often, to a place where sense has yet to reach, and so I can’t take the train.

  Every time I need to drive somewhere, especially with any amount of traffic, it is a battle to keep myself thinking positive thoughts. All my journeys on foot or by metro have so much colour and life, even on grey, rainy days. By car it’s just sad highway for miles while being surrounded by angry, impatient people who wouldn’t allow another person to merge on threat of death.

  I hate driving. It is a chore even when I get to drive my fun little sportscar and the fact you need to pay for the privilege makes it all the more absurd.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I moved from MB to QC in 1999-2003 and I was so shocked by the differences I ended up giving my car to my sister back in MB.

    Metro to work would be like 25 minutes including walk, where vehicle to parking to work would be like 1 hour.

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    • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yup, Montréal is top shit as far as North America is concerned. Metro is king, and so great for when you’re kinda tired and just want someone to drive you around. Like I said, I still have my car but I always choose not to bother with it unless I absolutely have to.

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• DrSleepless@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah that’s the thing and not unaffordable housing. Sure, Jan.

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  • ECB@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The two are closely connected.

    You can’t really build affordable and convenient car-dependent style housing (think single-family suburbs) for everyone because they take too much space. So you’ll always end up with the situation where well-located houses are outrageously expensive and you get cheaper by buying something much further out. Essentially people are willing to pay a premium to no have to drive for a long time to get anywhere.

    The only reason why conveniently-located suburbs were ever affordable (think 50s or 60s) is because most people back then didn’t have a car yet, so the demand wasn’t saturated.

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• ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I have a car but I mostly ride the bus, for three reasons:

  • I want my car to last as long as possible because it’s a pre-surveillance model and it still works great. The less I drive it, the longer it will last.
  • When I ride in someone else’s vehicle - be it a bus or a cab - running costs, depreciation, taxes, maintenance, parking and accidents are someone else’s problem. My life is simpler in someone else’s vehicle.
  • I can do other things while I’m being chauffeured around - including talking to other passengers.

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