To all these commenters casting judgement, I challenge you to go 12 months without any sex or masturbation and see what that does to your mental health. Now imagine being physically unable to do that for the rest of your life without paid help, which you cannot afford. Otherwise fuck off.
NDIS participants can no longer access sex worker services through funding. Advocates say it's a 'deep betrayal'
Submitted 5 days ago by maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
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goodthanks@lemmy.world 5 days ago
spiffmeister@aussie.zone 5 days ago
Thanks Bill! Really saving the taxpayer there.
goodthanks@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It’s important to acknowledge that when questioned about this decision, Bill said that he only knew of one case where NDIS money was uses for this purpose. While simultaneously saying it cost too much. I had such high hopes for this guy. But it turns out I was just ignorant about labor party politics. Now he’s off to his vice chancellor gig, to further the agenda of university as a business and not a vehicle for improving society. Fuck these old useless policitians pulling the ladder up behind them.
Cypher@aussie.zone 5 days ago
I see no evidence backed by actual science that allowing NDIS funded access to sex services improves outcomes for the community.
And I don’t just mean the disabled community but broader society, which is paying for the NDIS.
If this is about funding making a subset of people feel good and not about actual outcomes then I might as well ask for taxpayers to fund my holidays.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 days ago
Making people feel good is an actual outcome. In fact, it’s the only actual outcome.
Who cares about quarterly profits, and budget savings, and a strong economy, and anything else, if it doesn’t make people feel good? Our laws and our economy should be designed with the intention of having a society of people who are happy. If the system isn’t designed to increase happiness, then everything it accomplishes is pointless.
Cypher@aussie.zone 4 days ago
Everyone else who pays taxes towards a program like the NDIS is giving up a little of their own quality of life.
Hookers shouldn’t be getting NDIS funds paid to them when there are still people going without and this is part of balancing the budget to ensure the NDIS is sustainable.
goodthanks@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Also acknowledges the fact that those at the bottom of this awful economic hierarchy miss out on some of the things that “regular” people take for granted. You know, the basic enjoyments that make life bearable so we don’t off ourselves. Everyone should consider themselves one accident away from being destitute if they don’t have family wealth. Then consider what your life could be like in that scenario. A car crash happens, and then you could spend the rest of your life never touching skin with another person.
Taleya@aussie.zone 3 days ago
disabled people have sexual needs as well jsyk. You may not like it, but they do.
Cypher@aussie.zone 3 days ago
And I have a need for some rest and relaxation from the daily grind. I would rather spend my money on myself than on hookers for someone else.
Weird I know.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Biological imperatives are a thing.
goodthanks@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It also has a significant emotional dimension, which I think goes undiscussed too often. And ties in with feelings of self worth.
trolololol@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Ah we found the Ayn Rand follower
Let’s scrape all social benefits that have no benefit for
every single personcapitalists, things were better when industrialists worked kids starting age 7 60h week. If they want to go to school they have to earn it./s
Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 days ago
So you don’t think there should be any disability funding?
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Government funded hookers hey? I fail to see how u can justify that?
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 days ago
They already justified it in a court of law. A judge found that it was both “reasonable and necessary”.
Taleya@aussie.zone 3 days ago
They have. Multiple times. Multiple sources. Just because you never considered it and can’t be arsed to doesn’t erase reality.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It sounded like this meant prostitutes, but it seems like this actually just means things that help you physically make sex work if you have a disability, which seems much more normal and appropriate
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 5 days ago
How is disabled people safely and consensually experiencing a sexual existence not “normal and appropriate”?
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I don’t actually know that I think it’s abnormal or inappropriate, I’m not really sure. But I thought it was saying they’d no longer be supported with sexual funtioning kinda issues related to their disability, like equipment or medication that makes improves sexual functioning. Those kinds of things are definitley reasonable, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I don’t live in Australia, so what I think is honestly irrelevant since it’s not my government and they don’t need to advocate my interests, but I’m not really sure how I’d feel about policies making money available for the paying of prostitutes in my country (though prostitution isn’t legal here and the puritanical US would never accept that changing). I don’t think prostitution is wrong, or that disabled people don’t need support in the ability to life healthy full lives.
I guess I feel like I don’t know enough about the variety of disabilities to have any sort of informed stance. My first thought is just that people with disabilities are generally still perfectly capable of forming meaningful relationships where intimacy could happen, sans government provided prostitution. But like, that’s informed by a fairly limited perspective, there are a lot of disabilities and I can definitely see there being unforseen implications to familiar disabilities or disabilities I’m not aware of.
I have a disability, and it does kinda impact my ability to build relationships in the same way that other people do (a circadian rhythm disorder, my sleep schedule is extremely isolating) and I would never expect the government to give me money to pay for prostitutes. But I’m also from the US, where there’s a very different relationship with the government than there is in most “developed” western countries (the culture being that the government should do as little as possible and everything people can do for themselves, they should. Though in practice it’s just pro corporation and anti-human) and where sex has historically be demonized FAR more than in other western “developed” countries. 🤷♂️
DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It is prostitution, but so what? What is inappropriate about two adults undertaking an agreed transaction for sexual needs that would otherwise go unfulfilled? A disabled person already has so many limitations in life, any opportunity to expand those limits should be supported in my view. As a taxpayer, I support my money being used for these services for disabled community members.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Thank you for correcting me! I skimmed the article out of curiosity a bit too quickly I guess
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 5 days ago
I feel like they should have access to sex work services. Give them funding!
DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I agree also