Any tips for setting up a Mac? A 15+ years Linux user needs help

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨souperk@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

Hey! As part of the onboarding process at my new job I booted a Mac for the first time in my life. Everything feels strange and I was looking for tips to make it feel like gnome (pun intended).

I have been using Linux for the past 15+ years, I am a software engineer, so any development specific would be really appreciated.

One important issue I am facing is installing xcode without creating an apple account or generally doing anything without one. I really don’t want to give my personal information to apple if I can avoid it…

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2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’ve been using Linux for maybe 8 years before getting a Mac and found it to be great to use pretty much immediately. So there’s not really much I can tell you here. Except maybe to install the GNU coreutils from homebrew (and that itself if you don’t have it yet), the ones it comes with suck.

I don’t think there is a way to download Xcode without an Apple ID. The App Store also needs one though you could get by without that. You could just make the account only for downloading Xcode and only sign in in the browser for it, I suppose.

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jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Set up an Apple account using the company info, not yours. Problem solved.

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- jdw@links.mayhem.academy ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Zactly.
  
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narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Your company should provide you with an Apple ID (or “Apple Account” as it’s apparently called now), no…? If they didn’t but one is required, ask them.

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WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You’ll feel right at home in the command line. Install Homebrew or MacPorts. These are command line package managers. Many if not most of the software tools you are used to on Linux likely have Mac ports as well and you can find them either online or via one of those package managers.

If you are going to download software from Apple’s Apple Store, you will need to make an account. You can install software directly from the internet without needing an account. You might need to tweak some “security settings” in System Preferences to run software not from the App Store.

Unfortunately Xcode is something you need an Apple account to install. However, the Xcode “command line tools”, which includes a lot of common tools like gcc, I believe you can install by running “xcode-select --install” from the command line even without an account. There might also be other ways to get those tools installed manually / not through Apple.

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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Ireally don’t want to give my personal information to apple if I can avoid it…

The bad news is… drums rolling…

You can’t become an Apple developer that way.

You will give them your true personal information, as well as your beliefs and your immortal soul… 😉

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- CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You forgot to mention the lobotomy.
  
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boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Easiest is to just create an account with fake info. They don’t do any KYC for regular users AFAIK.

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- infeeeee@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  If they won’t pay with it, isn’t it just an email address with a password? If the laptop is company issued OP can just use their new compwny email address, than don’t use that address for anything outside work related stuff.
  
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  - MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I set one up recently and it also asked for a phone number. Maybe there is a way to bypass that step but I couldn’t find it
    
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angelmountain@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Welcome to Apple. You just do what they tell you, there is not really any other option.

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- cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The other option is to use hardware from any other company.
  
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Im_old@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You could always dual boot on Linux 😁

You could try with homebrew to install some software, but the apple ID I’m afraid is a requirement. Use company email with company phone number.

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marx2k@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Depends on the type of dev you’re doing.

Homebrew. Through homebrew: vscode,iterm2, Firefox, virtual box and/or vmware fusion, colima + docker, vagrant, pyenv, jenv, direnv, nodenv, bash, zsh + oh-my-zsh +powerlevel10k, tmux+byobu, coreutils

I’m sure I’m missing a bunch

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CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
If you’re programming for Apple platforms (iOS/Mac) that’s pretty much a requirement. While you can submit fake information while registering Apple ID, it could be seen unprofessional at some job spaces; but then again mostly people wont care.

Your company will likely handle details regarding development fees (developer account, publishing fees and all that stuff) so you aon’t have to submit any payment information.

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