What's Mastodon precious?

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• Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If Mastodon wanted to be preferred, it should have been better. I moved to Mastodon over a year ago when the Twitter sale first happened. It was not great then and it’s gotten slightly worse since. I created a Bluesky account two fats ago and it already offers exactly the experience I missed from Twitter before Elon.

  Would it be better if Mastodon was good and the federated FOSS option was superior? Sure, absolutely. But, that scenario isn’t even close to the case we are presented with.

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  • DJDarren@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been a heavy Mastodon user for two years, and I honestly don’t see why so many people on Lemmy give it so much shit. Certainly not in favour of the likes of Bluesky.

    I get WAY more engagement with my posts on there than I ever did on Twitter. And maybe I’m just at an age where I don’t give a shit about celebrity, but I couldn’t care less that all the Big Names have gone to Bluesky and Threads. It’s great not seeing the same people being shared into my TL all the time.

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  • JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve got a bsky account too but I get way more engagement on my fedi accounts. I’ve been building up my follows for 15 years on the fedi so bsky never had a chance to catch up. it probably never will.

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    • silasmariner@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      15… Years? On the fediverse? How’d ya manage that without time travel?

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can you give actual examples?

    I feel the only thing that Mastodon ‘misses’ is some feed to get you addicted.

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    • Gigasser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Might be paranoid, but I feel as if alot of the anti-mastoron sentiment is astroturfing. Might just be me and my schizo mind though.

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    • grandma@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which is precisely what makes people actually use twitter

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    • Fediverse_Champion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Seconded, some specific examples would be helpful.

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• alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just love when ppl believe that switching from one VC-funded centralised corpo platform to another VC-funded (slitghly less) centralised corpo platform is a good thing /s

  Just because it’s (partially) OSS doesn’t make it good. The corp still hold all the power and might sell out, but at least they got free volunteers to program for them so the C-level could get more money!

  (Now don’t tell me that Bluesky is “federated”. They still hold all the power over site rules and moderation. The only little concession you get is that you are allowed to host your own data)

  Apparently virtue signaling about pseudofederation is enough for libs to “get hope for the future of the internet” while they happily lick the boot of yet another centralization-crazed “trust me bro this isn’t going to eshittify itself” corp

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  • P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nice profile picture!

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    • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      uuu thx

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I just loooove how pppl believe that whether something has VC-funding or is federated has any effect at all on how people pick software and systems to use.

    I mean, users don’t even not care, because “caring vs not caring” assumes that the metric they can care about or not mentally exists in their context for judging a decision. Which it does not. Which is a very important part so many software designers of user-facing software forget, to users a short-form posting instance is a tool. A hammer. You use the one you got. Once it becomes defunct, you get a new one. You pick one that all your friends use, because hey, must be great if everyone uses it. Does it have some downsides? Maybe, but frankly it’s a hammer who cares?!

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  • udon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only little concession you get is that you are allowed to host your own data)

    Nah, that’s not even a concession. You just pay for a portion of their server costs at no gain in influence.

    Problem with Masto though is that the technological leadership is really bonkers, hardly anything meaningful happened over the past 2 years with lots of serious issues not getting fixed

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• andrewthe95th@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I feel like you guys are addicted to letting perfect be the enemy of good. Yes, Bluesky being corporate run will probably be an issue down the line, but if it becomes mainstream then people will be used to seeing .APP.INSTANCE and feel more comfortable with the fediverse interface, which I know at least for me was a big hurdle. Like seriously, the fact that the next big thing is federated, even if in name only, is a big step forward.

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  • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bluesky is such a huge improvement over twitter and so many people are just ignoring that. Yes, the app is centralized, but you can still host your own data if you choose. Plus, the customizable feeds, algorithms, and moderation lists are all great.

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  • ajmaxwell@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Half a loaf is better than no loaf

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  • JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the irony of a bsky supporter complaining about being judged because it’s not perfect.

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    • Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imo sorry, but you are literally the reason why the fediverse has a bad name. Stop gatekeeping stuff or asking others to do so and just defederate if you don’t like it.

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    • andrewthe95th@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I genuinely have no idea what you’re implying lol

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  • Cheems@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Expecting perfection is a huge problem in all aspects of life. People just want instant perfection and aren’t willing to work towards it. Then there’s just apathy and that leads to stagnation or worse regression.

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    • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ohhh that’s your profile pic, I was really confused how you got verified haha

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  • xavier_berthiaume@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah I’m a huge believer in federated systems but I believe that a lot of ‘normies’ going to bluesky is a huge step in the right direction. Even though most don’t know anything about the tech behind it and migrate because twitter has become a bot infested right wing hell scape, they still are one step closer to being fully integrated to the fediverse.

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    • airportline@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bluesky’s ActivityPub support is also leagues better than Threads because of Bridgy Fed. At least a Bluesky user and a Threads user can follow each other and have a back-and-forth conversation.

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• Donkeytown@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  After initially hesitating, I decided to join Bluesky after having previously tried Mastodon and permanently leaving Twitter. While I was initially reluctant because Jack Dorsey had sold Twitter to Elon Musk, I still created a Bluesky account. I later came across Jason Koebler’s article on 404 Media, which validated my choice. His arguments aligned with my own reasons for preferring Bluesky over Mastodon. Link to the article: The Great Migration to Bluesky Gives Me Hope for the Future of the Internet.

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  • JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    404 is just mad because we mocked them relentlessly for not using content warnings on their goatse posts.

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• Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Eh… seriously?

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  • solarvector@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bluesky Social has pledged to transfer the protocol’s development to a standards body such as the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in the near future.[11]

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    • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let’s see it then. I’m concerned when the opportunity to profit arises that perverse motives will occur.

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