Ewww - the whole point of peer review is to catch this shit. If peer review isn’t working, we should be going back to monographs :)
Problem?
Submitted 5 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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troyunrau@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
decerian@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I disagree there - peer review as a system isn’t designed to catch fraud at all, it’s designed to ensure that studies that get published meet a minimum standard for competence. Reviewers aren’t asked to look for fake data, and in most cases aren’t trained to spot it either.
Whether we need to create a new system that is designed to catch fraud prior to publication is a whole different question.
Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 5 weeks ago
Whether we need to create a new system that is designed to catch fraud prior to publication is a whole different question
That system already exists. It’s what replication studies are for. Whether we desperately need to massively bolster the amount of replication studies done is the question, and the answer is ‘yes’.
troyunrau@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
We could award a certain percentage of grants and grad students should be able to get degrees doing replication studies. Unfortunately everyone is chasing total paper count and impact factor rankings and shit.
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, reviewing is about making sure the methods are sound and the conclusions are supported by the data. Whether or not the data are correct is largely something that the reviewer cannot determine.
If a machine spits out a reading of 5.3, but the paper says 6.2, the reviewer can’t catch that. If numbers are too perfect, you might be suspicious of it, but it’s really not your job to go all forensic accountant on the data.
Wolf314159@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
You’re conflating peer review and studies that verify results. The problem is that verifying someone else’s results isn’t sexy, doesn’t get you grant money, and doesn’t further your career. Redoing the work and verifying the results of other “pioneers” is important, but thankless work. Until we insensitivise doing the boring science by funding all fundamental science research more, this kind of problem will only get worse.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I look forward to 6 hours of BobbyBroccoli videos about this.
RamenDame@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I love his videos. I found him one lacy Sunday afternoon bing watching his Schön videos. He and many more are my reason for Nebula.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I, too, spend my Sunday afternoons draped in lace.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 weeks ago
Everyone laughing about troll physics, this guy did troll chemistry. Nobody’s laughing now.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
Did he work with copper nanotubes, perhaps?
icerunner_origin@startrek.website 4 weeks ago
I’m getting the impression he worked with brass balls
D61@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
Probably not a good idea to phrase it as “earned” retractions.
It shouldn’t be a competition to see who is the worst.
buh@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
Respect is earned, not given 😤
samus12345@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
問題?
Dippy@beehaw.org 4 weeks ago
Dude even fakes his smile
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
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