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California governor vetoes bill to create first-in-nation AI safety measures.

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Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨101@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.voanews.com/a/california-governor-vetoes-bill-to-create-first-in-nation-ai-safety-measures/7803850.html

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  • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The measure, aimed at reducing potential risks created by AI, would have required companies to test their models and publicly disclose their safety protocols to prevent the models from being manipulated to, for example, wipe out the state’s electric grid or help build chemical weapons.

    How exactly do LLMs do that? If you’ve given an LLM’s pseudorandom output control over your electrical grid, no regulation will mitigate your stupidity.

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    • bamfic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Could he understand the halting problem? I doubt he does, but the legislators evidently don’t either

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How exactly do LLMs do that?

      If you hook an LLM up as an interface replacement for a manual/analog Power Plant interface and start asking the translator to intuit decisions based on fuzzy inputs, you can create a cascade of errors that result in grid failure.

      If you’ve given an LLM’s pseudorandom output control over your electrical grid, no regulation will mitigate your stupidity.

      This rule would prevent a business or public regulator from doing such a thing without proving out safeguards.

      And the governor vetoed it.

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think it’s more about asking it the steps to create a bomb or how to disrupt the grid, for example, where to cut the major edges.

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      • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        asking it the steps to create a bomb

        That sounds like a self-correcting issue right there

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  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good.

    All this bill would have done is given OpenAI/Anthropic and such an effective monopoly by destroying the open model community. I think fediverse vs. good social media is a good analogy, and this would have effectively sniped the Fediverse because it’s “too dangerous” without actually being specific on how to deal with that.

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  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Newsom on Sunday instead announced that the state will partner with several industry experts, including AI pioneer Fei-Fei Li, to develop guardrails around powerful AI models. Li opposed the AI safety proposal.

    That’s reassuring—Li is one of the best-qualified people for the role, and she isn’t in the pocket of any of the major players.

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  • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nancy Pelosi, argued that the bill would “kill California tech” and stifle innovation.

    As long as the critics need nothing better than such stupid, short-sighted arguments, nobody will ever be safe.

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  • transientpunk@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man, fuck Gavin Newsome. That fucker has to go

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He might be going to the White House in the future.

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Trying to do the same thing in EU I guess. It’s funny how the tech giants are mad at it and not releasing their latest data pumps in EU. It’s like cocaine gangs threatening us to not sell in our countries if we don’t change the laws. No, thanks.

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  • trailee@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Meta: I’ve noticed a lot of VOA links on Lemmy lately, and I’d like to understand why. As I understand it, VOA is essentially a national propaganda news organization targeting an international audience (similar to RT). Why is that a good source for article sharing? Especially in the case of the article at hand, which is just a VOA republication of an Associated Press piece that could have been linked originally.

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  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Great, now we’ll have separate “california-model” ai-models, like cars.

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    • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why? He vetoed it.

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      • ravhall@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People don’t read. They see California and get all upset because they hate anything remotely progressive, and just assume all the steers left for Texas.

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      • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And now lots of cars use the same standard as California which can be registered in California, what’s your point?

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