Submitted 1 month ago by data1701d@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
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Seriously, though. In my opinion, V is by far the worst TOS film, if not the worst of any Star Trek film (Yes, including Kelvin), yet it somehow nailed the ending.
I actually prefer TNG’s settling down with a Poker game, and Picard joining in with a “I didn’t know why I didn’t do this before”.
The only way it could be better is if the show opened with a Poker game.
Ah crap. You win.
With out star trek v I wouldn’t have my favorite quote for use at work. “Share your pain.”
In the words of Greg DeMayo, “If every pork chop were perfect, we wouldn’t have hot dogs.”
Agreed on all points. I think this movie is awful but with some standout character moments.
I always loved the end of Star Trek VI. Specifically, the signatures and the music. I know it’s technically not a scene, but it was a darn good send-off and ending.
Honestly, there were weird things about that film, but I think you can’t go wrong with Kirk and Bones breaking out of a Klingon prison while Spock, Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu all say “to heck with protocol!”
I always loved the end of Star Trek VI.
the last scene just as the view screen w sulu and the excelsior crew shut off and the camera switches the enterprise crew at their stations plus the empty station that sulu would have been in if he were still on the enterprise does it for me and when kirk says “second star to the right and straight on 'till morning” gives me goosebumps every single time.
Also Spock’s “If I were human, I believe my response would be, ‘Go to hell.’ If I were human.” I love the dry wit we get out of old Spock from time to time.
I don’t get how people can dislike these movies but then be fine with things like Discovery, Enterprise, or even worse, Picard.
At least this movie didn’t have weird sibling sex or pro-slavery comments or rape scenes.
I will clarify I haven’t watched a lot of Discovery, Enterprise, or Picard.
However, problems of the sort you mention (not necessarily the exact ones you mention, but similar or of concern) aren’t exactly new.
For instance:
I think the truth of all Star Trek is it is flawed, but that we can critically acknowledge those flaws while managing to look past them so we can appreciate and enjoy the good parts.
Hear hear. There’s still a lot of good in there even with the examples you have given
Enterprise doesn’t deserve to be in that list. It may not have been everyone’s cup of tea, but it’s way closer to the other series than Discovery or Picard.
Also, uh, sibling sex and pro-slavery comments? I must have missed those episodes.
Enterprise is the one with the pro slavery comments. And pro human trafficking too. And the weird sibling sex. Cogenitor episode, the moral of the story is “slavery can be a cultural thing and it’s wrong to oppose another culture for that”. And then the horrible episode with orion slaves that says that these sex slaves are not only enjoying it, but are the evil ones, with even the slaver saying that they are the ones in control. For the sibling sex it’s this creepy episode about eugenics and a relative of Soong (if I remember properly) where a bunch of kids who were raised together start fucking and fighting to decide who fucks who. Yeah, they are genetically not related, but in the end I don’t want to see sex scenes of teen siblings, sorry.
mipadaitu@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It does show how dystopian Star Trek kinda is tho. Nobody consumes any media composed after around 1900.
Apparently copyright destroyed art and it’s no longer able to be created, except what was already in the public domain starting around 1960’s.
data1701d@startrek.website 1 month ago
Actually, there are several post-1900 copyrighted works mentioned in Star Trek.
Tom likes early 20th century B Sci Fi. Kirk and Spock reference authors who released work after the 60s in IV when discussing colorful metaphors. Hotel Royale is not a good example, but definitely counts.
Truth be told, I think copyright is a double-edged sword. On one hand, businesses have used it to gatekeep, leading to intellectual stagnation, as you seem to imply. However, at the same time, copyright is often the only legal framework defending small artists against those same businesses (I’ll concede not that well, but still.).
mipadaitu@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Those are all good counterpoints.
OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 1 month ago
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Klanky@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
What episode is this from? I’m totally blanking. Something Tom set up on the holodeck?
Corgana@startrek.website 1 month ago
That all said I do love how in everyone’s free time they’re all growing and relaxing in healthy ways like sports, painting, learning an instrument or putting on a play.
veroxii@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Pretty sure the Beastie Boys are post 1900: youtu.be/5PaUTnk9k9Y
notgold@aussie.zone 1 month ago
My most hated ST ‘win’. You’re right of course but I’ve tried to forget that ending