Why even bother arresting Telegram’s CEO when Matrix is a thing.
Telegram CEO's arrest sparks flurry of questions over motivation, privacy impact.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by True@lemy.lol to technology@lemmy.world
https://therecord.media/telegram-ceo-arrest-flurry-of-questions-pavel-durov
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Granixo@feddit.cl 3 weeks ago
Korkki@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Because almost nobody uses Matrix compared to Telegram. And it’s not even about if some people can slip through the fingers of western intel services, it’s about controlling the narrative and putting the clamps on information and telegram is almost as much of a news site as it’s a live chat. Telegram is just popular enough that it pokes holes into narratives and harms the mainstream media bubble.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Telegram also amplifies narratives by governments which they don’t know how to present via TV and such.
It allows for government propaganda and trolling to look grassroots.
At least in Russia the actual bulk of government propaganda (and activity in the opposite direction too) happens in TG, being supposedly not official. Also the biggest Russian-language channels aimed at some other CIS countries are most likely directly controlled by their governments or sometimes biggest opposition groups (of the “oligarchy” kind).
It may be hard to believe, but maybe people who arrested Durov are trying to improve the world.
Rinox@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
Why even bother fining VW for Dieselgate when Tesla is a thing
What does that even mean???
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
What does this mean
gregor@gregtech.eu 3 weeks ago
matrix.org element is the most well-known client, and probably the best one.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I’m sure if the Matrix CEO went to France, they’d arrest them, too.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You do NOT need to post this to every technology group on every Lemmy instance.
True@lemy.lol 3 weeks ago
Isn’t that the way that federation work!?
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Not at all, actually.
TheBat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Arrest or defection? 🤔
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
He already left Russia a very long time ago, chased out over VK essentially.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yet he apparently visited it a couple dozen times after he “fled” Russia. Or maybe this is misinformation.
But anyway I wouldn’t trust Durov, because he seemed sufficiently cooperating for all the time of VK’s existence.
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I will never understand why people defend this idiot. Plenty of secure chat apps exists in the EU without problems. Matrix for example is used by both the German and the French government. Telegrams CEO is just reaping what he sowed by ignoring French warrants.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I’ve never heard anything about ignoring French warrants…?
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
According to TF1 he was arrested due to lack of cooperation with law enforcement regarding suspected complicity in drug trafficking, CSAM, and fraud. So my interpretation is that they repeatedly ignored french law enforcement asking Telegram to take down certain channels. Maybe warrant was the wrong word I am not a native speaker.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
There were warrants issued on March 25 to him and his brother, which were ignored.
Source: politico.eu/…/exclusive-telegram-ceo-brother-niko…
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He knows how to be appealing to other idiots.
Actually one can call it genial business sense.
He made a social network first, then evaluated which parts of it were most efficient in attracting people, and made a social network masqueraded as an instant messenger.
A deliberately insecure one, but pretending to be secure in a tone appealing to idiots, again.
This may mean he’s not an idiot himself, just an asshole.