Why even bother arresting Telegram’s CEO when Matrix is a thing.
Telegram CEO's arrest sparks flurry of questions over motivation, privacy impact.
Submitted 2 months ago by True@lemy.lol to technology@lemmy.world
https://therecord.media/telegram-ceo-arrest-flurry-of-questions-pavel-durov
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Granixo@feddit.cl 2 months ago
Korkki@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because almost nobody uses Matrix compared to Telegram. And it’s not even about if some people can slip through the fingers of western intel services, it’s about controlling the narrative and putting the clamps on information and telegram is almost as much of a news site as it’s a live chat. Telegram is just popular enough that it pokes holes into narratives and harms the mainstream media bubble.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Telegram also amplifies narratives by governments which they don’t know how to present via TV and such.
It allows for government propaganda and trolling to look grassroots.
At least in Russia the actual bulk of government propaganda (and activity in the opposite direction too) happens in TG, being supposedly not official. Also the biggest Russian-language channels aimed at some other CIS countries are most likely directly controlled by their governments or sometimes biggest opposition groups (of the “oligarchy” kind).
It may be hard to believe, but maybe people who arrested Durov are trying to improve the world.
Rinox@feddit.it 2 months ago
Why even bother fining VW for Dieselgate when Tesla is a thing
What does that even mean???
LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 months ago
What does this mean
gregor@gregtech.eu 2 months ago
matrix.org element is the most well-known client, and probably the best one.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I’m sure if the Matrix CEO went to France, they’d arrest them, too.
swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You do NOT need to post this to every technology group on every Lemmy instance.
True@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Isn’t that the way that federation work!?
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Not at all, actually.
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Arrest or defection? 🤔
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
He already left Russia a very long time ago, chased out over VK essentially.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yet he apparently visited it a couple dozen times after he “fled” Russia. Or maybe this is misinformation.
But anyway I wouldn’t trust Durov, because he seemed sufficiently cooperating for all the time of VK’s existence.
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I will never understand why people defend this idiot. Plenty of secure chat apps exists in the EU without problems. Matrix for example is used by both the German and the French government. Telegrams CEO is just reaping what he sowed by ignoring French warrants.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I’ve never heard anything about ignoring French warrants…?
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
According to TF1 he was arrested due to lack of cooperation with law enforcement regarding suspected complicity in drug trafficking, CSAM, and fraud. So my interpretation is that they repeatedly ignored french law enforcement asking Telegram to take down certain channels. Maybe warrant was the wrong word I am not a native speaker.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
There were warrants issued on March 25 to him and his brother, which were ignored.
Source: politico.eu/…/exclusive-telegram-ceo-brother-niko…
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He knows how to be appealing to other idiots.
Actually one can call it genial business sense.
He made a social network first, then evaluated which parts of it were most efficient in attracting people, and made a social network masqueraded as an instant messenger.
A deliberately insecure one, but pretending to be secure in a tone appealing to idiots, again.
This may mean he’s not an idiot himself, just an asshole.