Microsoft offers to relocate nearly 10% of China-based staffers to the US or allied nations — AI and cloud engineering exodus from China begins

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• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Chinese spies like this trick.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I never understood the fear of spies. If you are giving them cleared jobs that’s one thing but we are talking about the public.

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    • noobface@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Industrial espionage

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• LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  10%. In other news, Microsoft retains 90% staffers based in China.

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  • DrDominate@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well yeah they only want to get their favorite employees outta there. /s

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• A_A@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Since Microsoft committed the Windows 11 atrocities, any countries may want 100% of those Microsoft Crooks to get the hell out.

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    IT guy here, I can sort of accept Windows 11 from a user’s perspective, but the new Outlook is absolutely unforgivable.

    It is a peice of utter garbage and will break so many workflows that I am scared for the future.

    Microsoft built their dominance on Office, not Windows, specifically, Excel and Outlook.

    Sadly almost every company runs Exchange and there is a lot of companies that either already run 365 or are migrating to it.

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    • filister@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do not forget their so-called open document format (OOXML), which is everything but open, and their deliberate efforts to suffocate the competition, by abusing their market position.

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    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know that’s true of large enterprises but I spent about a decade in an around start ups and few used Microsoft stuff (except Excel for finance people). If you’re starting from scratch and have a bunch of young employees, there’s really no reason to stick with the legacy Microsoft stuff.

      Not saying “Google’s office suite is better than Microsoft’s.” Microsoft’s cloud offerings are basically the same now and there’s some advantages and disadvantages. I just mean there’s a generation of people that know Google Workplace better than MS Office.

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    • A_A@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Likewise, in 1995 M$ made WinRAR. it took the place of a much better product that was PKZip which existed since 1989. Since then I always see crooked things in each of their products and predatory commercial moves.

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  • downpunxx@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I'd put up all the Microsoft atrocities you can name, against the CCP any day of the week and twice on Sundays

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think that is the reason

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You think china is just gonna let those people leave? Lmao

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• downpunxx@fedia.io ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fuck China

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  • asbestos@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    *fuck CCP

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Which is China unless you are talking about ancient Chinese dynasties

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• Dreizehn@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  "F that!" US Immigration should not allow a bunch of fucking CCP/PLA members and MSS agents into the USA.

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  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Relax. I’m sure they’ll be vetted and probably most won’t even be Chinese citizens. China is just as complicated a place as America^1. I’m an American software developer and I’d rather eat a bowl of hair than go work for my own government, much less any other. There’s lots of Chinese tech workers who just want to write software and not get involved.

    ^1 I’ll admit, Chinese food is more complicated. Like Louisiana vs Szechuan is a fair fight. I’ll take the Pepsi challenge with Memphis BBQ vs their best smoked pork. But after that, we’re gonna need to pretend Mexican and Italian food are American to be competitive.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I figured it would be layoffs.

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  • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably step 2.

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• Maeve@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ohh, this is why all the layoffs! Their going to import employees and pay exploit them. Greedy, greedy M$.

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• JoYo@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  the sanctions are working?

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• filister@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s a very strange title, I think in the end the US would suffer more, because China would be able to easily replace this talent, but the same cannot be said for the US.

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not understanding your idea. Why would it be harder for the US to replace tech talent? We’re not restricted to just hiring US nationals. The H1-B visa queue is decades long.

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