The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it
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‘My whole library is wiped out’: what it means to own movies and TV in the age of streaming services
Submitted 8 months ago by Dragxito@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Olap@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Onii-Chan@kbin.social 8 months ago
Living in Australia means piracy is essentially legal - individuals can only be taken to court for the cost of one physical copy of the pirated media, so companies don't even bother as long as you aren't distributing. The more things in this area get worse, the more justified I feel in filling up my 10TB HDD.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
In the US its the service providers that get in trouble not the users
Scrollone@feddit.it 8 months ago
In Italy nobody gives a fuck, unless you start making people pay for your piracy service (e.g. illegal sports streaming)
Dirk@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Streaming for things you consume. Offline media for things you like.
eee@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Should companies work on improving access to services and making sure paying consumers get a better experience?
Nah, let’s spend more money paying lawyers to go after a few people, that’ll show em.
nyan@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
Companies should be sued for false advertising if they claim that their streaming service allows you to “buy” or “own” anything (unless their service includes non-DRM downloads for permanent offline storage). All you’re buying is temporary use of their rental network and library. Which is fine if that’s what you wanted and knew you were getting, but a problem if you were expecting something else.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Honestly what they could do is allow you to buy the Bluray. That would make me happier.
7rokhym@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The other concern is censorship. Essentially a movie that you bought is on a server and then someone’s decided that words, content, or scenes are no longer appropriate. The video, song, etc, is different from the original and without any notification. The old scenes get sent to the memory hole. Oh dear Winston, I fear we will meet soon!
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
RIP the D&D episode of community
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Buy physical media
Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just pirate it. Get a VPN, get BitTorrent on ur phone and literally Google for any movie and the word torrent. This isn’t fucking hard.
spez_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Physical media is bad for the environment and should be banned already. Get a NAS and selfhost
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Self host what? Last I checked physical media is the only way to own something.
jittery3291@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is there any way to build a library for a NAS without illegally downloading it?
kalleboo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
TBF I’m pretty sure all the rare earth and manufacturing that goes into the NAS and hard disks is far worse than some small plastic discs. I say this a a huge NAS user myself.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
That’s why I’ll keep buying physical for the games or movies I love.
The only question I have is what’s gonna happen as game discs are just becoming an access token to download the game and its updates.
I’d have nothing against digital games or movies if you didn’t see such behaviors.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Make sure you’ve got a spare DVD/Blu-Ray player somewhere that works without needing an internet connection.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Xbox “backwards compatibility” already works that way. It doesn’t run the code from the disc, it downloads a compatible digital version.
Phelpssan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The only question I have is what’s gonna happen as game discs are just becoming an access token to download the game and its updates.
That’s a big concern. There’s communities trying to document which games are complete on the media and can be played from start to end without updates (so no major game-breaking bugs or huge performance issues) like this one:
I’m also part of a Facebook group that collects cartridge information for Switch games, to document if there’s revisions with all updates included.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…/edit#gid=0
This community doesn’t test the games, just tries to figure out if there’s a “100% complete, all patches” version for each game available as physical media.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It’s good that people are worrying about this. Although, I haven’t heard of any disc game not being able to be played. I guess it would only happen if Sony/Microsoft go bankrupt or decide to close PlayStation/Xbox game updates servers.
It ain’t likely to happen but it’s important to be able to preserve games for the future as they are part of history just like paintings.
LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
my arrs love me, and i love my arrs
ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 8 months ago
I’ve been a user of GOG for a while principally because of the no-drm ability to download a copy of what you bought. When the library starts getting past a certain size though you start to wonder about those things like what if the producer has a falling out and wants to yank it from the platform, does it vanish from my library then too? Are there contracts that say ‘forever’ when they offer it? Would love to find some ‘download all’ option to take a full copy offline of the bought items at once but it’d probably overrun the monthly ISP limits even if they had one.
Seen too many things on Netflix or Spotify that I liked vanish because ‘fuck off, we can’ and although I never anticipated it being ‘bought’ in those cases it does give a lot of justification to find alternate means to reestablish that access.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, if it’s in “The Cloud” it’s NOT yours and it can disappear or be modified without your knowledge or consent at any time.
Buy some external storage and keep copies of everything you care about.
CannedCairn@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Is there a good way to pay for a download of movies or TV, or should I go back to buying physical and ripping?
BuckyVanBuren@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, got rid of all my CDs a few years ago and now I’m buying them back a bit at the time because of all the stuff that is going out of print and you can no longer stream.
Should have just stored everything.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 8 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“We’ve partnered with Fetch as our new entertainment platform and the vast majority of movies or shows customers have bought on their Telstra TV Box Office can be migrated across,” the spokesperson said.
Now firmly in the streaming age, ownership is largely subject to the terms and conditions people often do not read, a lecturer in computing and information systems at Melbourne University, Shaanan Cohney, said.
“It is not reasonable to expect consumers to read these terms and conditions [but] in the case of Telstra TV box office, they had a whole section on how they were able to withdraw content.”
Cohney said there is a strong moral argument – but not a legal one – to explain why people resort to downloading copyright-infringing content via torrent websites.
Users now need to use a virtual private network connection to access these sites, and rights holders argue this hurdle has substantially reduced piracy in Australia.
“It’s having mandatory rules around what kinds of things can be in the terms of conditions … If a provider wants to offer content in a way that is in violation of those, there has to be some substantial indication that it’s in the interests of the consumer as well as very clear disclosure of that particular change.”
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slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If buying isn’t owning, then pirating isn’t stealing.
Fair winds and following seas to you fellow sailors, arrrrr
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I can understand piracy when they take away something you’ve already bought, but I’d not want to do it for something I haven’t bought yet.
I wanna be able to support people creating what I like.
slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I actually probably provide more support for the things I like because I pirate. Look at it this way - if I had to subscribe to a million services, I just wouldn’t watch a lot of things (because I don’t like spending money month over month for services). Now, I download what I want to watch, and if it’s good I go and tell my friends and family how good it is and they go and watch it, bringing more eyeballs to their show/movie than they would’ve had otherwise. Pirating isn’t stealing or taking away from creatives imo
Shurimal@kbin.social 8 months ago
Especially with movies, the people who made the thing are already paid by the time it is released. As little as possible. VFX houses are often fucked royally and don't even break even. Even big-name actors are usally screwed over by Hollywood accounting.
By paying you only feed the leeches who then use their resources to fuck over everyone else.