Hundreds of millions
Even without climate change I doubt that humans would survive more than 1-2k years from now.
Submitted 6 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Hundreds of millions
Even without climate change I doubt that humans would survive more than 1-2k years from now.
I just want to point out that there is almost zero scientific evidence to suggest that climate change will cause the extinction of humanity, and substantial evidence to the contrary.
It may make the world a much worse place to live, but the doomers are almost as unscientific as the deniers.
Queue angry buzzing noises.
Even if humans don’t go extinct, surely untold masses will die from food shortages and disasters.
You’re not wrong at all, humans won’t go extinct. The alarming thing is all the other things which will go extinct or be reduced in number, and the change in water/soil/weather sources. Biodiversity and not having your neighbourhood turned into a desert are pretty important things to like, not have life suck. Plus you know, having access to clean water… in 50 years we’ll all be living like poor African children are now*
*I am not a climate scientist, nor do I have much actual knowledge on climate science
I don’t disagree at all but this seems to be a common misconception. See the OP from the Twitter thread and the angry bees I’ve enraged.
This is the thing for me, everyone who makes that argument is actually saying “a temperature change won’t make us extinct.” They don’t care that we’ll go extinct from the effects because cars go brrrr.
Are you a parody account or just a total moron?
The climate change itself isn’t the danger to our species, it’s the nuclear-armed states that will feel increasing pressure for areas with water or other resources they need, who miscalculate relative advantage in stressful scenarios.
If you start with the assumptions that Earth is regulated by YHWH by divine intervention and that all other planets are gifted to humanity by the same to do with as we will, this absurd belief follows naturally.
“Surviving” is one thing. Why can’t we also continue to enjoy life like you guys got to do? You wouldn’t have been able to last a day in the world you left for us. Which is why as it got closer and closer to affecting you too, you just pushed harder and harder to keep it away from you, doing more and more damage for the rest of us to feel instead.
There are more scenarios in which humanity will run itself in to the ground, we could survive for another while but I’m definitely not certain.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
To be fair… if we did manage to develop terraform-level atmospheric processing, we could set the CO2 level on Earth to whatever we want. Maybe that’s what he was trying to say?
exocrinous@startrek.website 6 months ago
That’s not true. That’s like saying “If we had refrigerators, we could keep food good forever”. As you know, food in the fridge can still go bad, because no technology is perfect. I think that terraforming technology will be an extension of techniques we can use on earth today, like controlling emissions. And that saving earth from apocalypse is the best possible practice we could have for fixing other planets. There is no magic “fix everything” button. Even with the right technology, you still have to do the work. Today, we have the right technology to save Earth, and what determines the continued survival of the human species is whether it is capable of doing the work.