Comment on ISP to Supreme Court: We shouldn’t have to disconnect users accused of piracy

LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Internet shutoffs shouldn’t be a thing, outside of non-payment or legitimate abuse. If I do something illegal, they should have to sue me, not shut off my internet.

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, they don’t disconnect a criminals phone service because they committed a crime and made a phone call. It makes no damned sense.

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    • this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only happens as a matter by court order and is a limit on the person not on the corporations. Though if found out after by the court it can be ordered terminated. And you will face further punishment.

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      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        government.They are responsible for their own tos

        Piracy almost certainly violates their TOS

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Actually, that’s been done several times over the decades. As well as banning computer access. The guy caught hacking into the fbi gets his mouse and keyboard taken away.

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  • elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you do something illegal, you should be arrested.

    Copyright infringement lawsuits are a far cry from bomb threats or the like.

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    • Jarix@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not everything that is illegal is punishable by arrest

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      • elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So you’re saying copyright infringement is on par with speeding or parking past the meter’s end? Eh, fair enough.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I’ve been ticketed for speeding, and that certainly doesn’t come with the threat of arrest.

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  • oconnordaniel@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Maybe not a court order. But I could get behind a process similar to other utilities where you have months or warning and paperwork.

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• person420@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I had to process these requests at a company I used to work for. They do send “proof” (proof in quotes because you have to believe in good faith they didn’t just make it up, which I have to believe they didn’t).

  We never shut anyone off though. We worked with business exclusively and only ever sent “scary” letters. Though we had one client that was a major music venue (a very known venue that’s pretty famous) who would get these letters all the time. The irony was too much for me. I ended up calling them personally most of the time because it was too funny.

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  • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I remember getting a scary letter because I was torrenting. I thought it so funny because I had to the only person in the world only torrenting freeaoftwarr and public domain works.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wait then what was it for?

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      • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They don’t give a shit about targeting accusations only towards people torrenting copyrighted stuff. Why would they? They have no consequences for being incorrect.

        They are doing this automatically. They just grab all the magnet links they can find and target any IP they connect to, regardless of the content.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve never gotten a scary letter, and I’ve certainly torrented my fair share of stuff, both legal and otherwise.

    The trick, I think, is to not use cable. I’ve had municipal fiber, Google fiber, DSL, and small local ISP (RJ45 hookup at the wall), and never once had an issue. The last one is probably annoyed at me because I tend to submit tickets and call them within a few minutes of my service going down (happens once/month or so). It’s extra funny when they ask me to check my wifi settings on my router, and I tell them my router doesn’t have wifi (it’s a Mikrotik router, my AP is separate), and that my wifi is absolutely fine, it’s the uplink that’s busted (i.e. I can access all the stuff on my NAS).

    I made a promise to myself that once I left the house, I’d never get cable. And that’s a promise I’ve kept across multiple apartments and now my house. We’re finally getting muni fiber, so I’m pretty excited.

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    • blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s more likely you aren’t using popular freely indexable trackers on currently airing popular media.

      Try torrenting a current episode of a top 10 watched show within a week of release and see how fast you get one lol.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I generally only torrent older media (like a few years old).

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