I have a slightly different take: I think it’s a positive thing because the sooner we destroy YouTube, the sooner YouTube will be destroyed.
Comment on YouTube Not Accessible Across Russia.
UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
While I understand people’s initial reaction to think this is a positive thing, I don’t believe it is. The less free speech and media the Russian people have access to, the more control Putins propaganda machine has.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
essteeyou@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Feels like your priorities might be out of order.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My priorities are thus:
- Destroy YouTube
- Everything else
They know what they did.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 month ago
Same difference. They won't do anything about it anyway.
tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Yeah… I suspect it has something to do with controlling info on Ukraine pushing back perhaps.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Is this a new development? If so could it be due to the Ukrainian incursion? I thought telegram was more popular there for that stuff
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Practically all russians have had access to fully uncensored YT just one click away on their smartphones for over a decade (until today).
That didn’t really change anything. Russia’s problems lie in the attitude of the overwhelming majority of its people, not in the lack of access to information.
They make a conscious and fully informed choice to be genocidal imperialists and embrace authoritarianism.
merde@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
“they”?
what happens to dissidents in Putin’s Russia? It’s easy to criticize a repressed population when you’re not risking anything.
were all U.S. citizens responsible for the invasion of iraq? In U.S. where you don’t disappear for criticising the government and it’s choices, what difference did that freedom of speech make for Iraqis?
Where in the so called “west” do people keep buying from Putin’s Russia through cloaked trade?
while we’re on the subject of “genocidal imperialists embracing authoritarianism”, who are the greatest sponsors of one of the longest running apartheid regime? Is “the attitude of the overwhelming majority of its people” the cause of this genocidal apartheid?
nuances! “Overwhelming majority” is just trying to get by. Most people are not power hungry psychopaths. If Putin, Netanyahu and some more of their ilk died today, world would be a better place tomorrow.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What about so called russian “dissidents”? Navalniy and his team openly supported the annexation of Crimea (and destruction of Ukrainian and Crimean Tartar culture).
The recently exchanged “dissidents” also showed their true colours by supporting the annexation of currently occupied territories in Ukraine.
We are not discussing US right now! The US did not annex Basra state, steal all the local children, force everyone to speak English and send anyone caught talking Arabic to a torture chamber; all with support of somewhere between 65% to 85% of their population.
The overwhelming majority of Russians are genocidal imperialists. They support invasions of foreign countries, annexations, attempts at elimatining local language and culture and setting up mass torture camps for anyone opposed to the yoke of russian degeneracy.
The “trying to get by” pitch is a ruse. Both qualitative and quantitative research (different methodologies, including ones that attempt to account for preference falsification) show this is not true and that on an outcome basis, the overwhelming majority of russians are indeed genocidal imperialists.
phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Fuck off with your xenophobia-biased opinions.
If you actually spent any amount of time communicating with people in Russia, you’d realise the overwhelming majority are not genocidal imperialists.
The overwhelming majority of Russians I’ve spoken to do not support the ongoing war, and would prefer if Ukraine was left alone.
I’d be interested in seeing where you’re pulling these extrapolated statistics from, including the demographics of the people who were surveyed.
If 7/10 Texans oppose abortion, does that mean 70% of the country believe the same thing?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Of course not. But the US is actively funding a genocide in palestine and many similar atrocities around the globe. This empire has a long history of colonialism, imperialism, genocide, slavery, racism, war, etc. The overwhelming majority of USAians are also genocidal imperialists. Just listen to NPR. Just look at the presidential candidates.
I’m not saying the alt-empire is any better. I’m saying that empire is the same everywhere. All of these politicians are extremely privileged hanging out together at the UN, dinner parties, etc. regardless of what brand of state they serve. It’s all the same system and same people. Every state and all empire is trash.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Not really: www.nytimes.com/2014/…/how-to-punish-putin.html ; this is just days after the annexation. I’m no fan of Navalny for various reasons (his nationalist views, xenophobic comments and narratives, etc), but he was very much against all Putin’s shenanigans in Ukraine, and vehemently anti-war.
What are you on about? Name one of them who supported the war. Most of them were jailed due to their anti-war positions.
starman@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
Sometimes you shoot yourself in the head. Twice.
UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I don’t think a grassroots revolution will be taking place anytime soon, but this is aimed at the young people of Russia who are against the war. The old people there love Putin but I suspect they also aren’t watching YouTube.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The majority of the young people in Russia are genocidal imperialists. Support for extermination of other countries is of course higher in the older generations, but that doesn’t change the fact a solid majority of young (e.g. 18 to 29) are genocidal imperialists.
I understand that it might be reassuring to repeat platitudes like “young people of russia are against the war”, but this is clearly not true.
Even the framing is suspect. What do you mean by “the war”; the full-scale invasion? In Ukraine, the war started in 2014 with annexation of Crimea and russian invasion of Donbas.
Petter1@lemm.ee 1 month ago
May I know where you found the info that a solid majority of young Russians (well, I think you only talk about those that did not already leave) supports the war?
BelatedPeacock@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not a Russian political expert, but the fact Putin keeps calling it “denazification” and a “special military operation” leads me to believe there’s a lot of people who don’t support a full blown war.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Why do you say this?
If 75% of russians support the “denazification” of Ukraine, that says a lot about them, no?
BelatedPeacock@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Because if their government won’t give them the full story it implies they might not like it.