Communism is the conservative authoritarian dogma. The exact opossite of progress… or anarchy.
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Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months agoProgressives aren’t a thing, it’s simply an Amaerica counter label to conservatives so they have something to attack.
And as an anarchist, I’ve no problem being lumped in with like minded views.
We’re leftists and proud of it.
deafboy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Lol, said confidently by someone who very clearly has not read anything marxist
deafboy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“In Marxist philosophy, the dictatorship of the proletariat is a condition in which the proletariat, or working class, holds control over state power. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the transitional phase from a capitalist and a communist economy…”
Except, there’s no such thing as a communist economy, so the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to reallocate. Then peoole start to flee across the barbed wire and the facade falls down.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The statement “communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma” being backed up by referencing the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat is… definitely something
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
there is no such thing as a communist economy Can you back this claim up? Market economy is a term for a reason. An economy doesn’t have to be market to be an economy. Have you never heard of a planned economy?
the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to relocate
No. The transitional phase lasts as long there is classes that necessitate a state.
You have a very simplistic understanding of marxism that cannot be rectified through a fucking wikipedia search. Read the source material or stfu
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
You’re thinking of tankies.
Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.
Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?
I think you’re describing anarchocommunism specifically. Which is "not all communism"™.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
The difference between non-ML tankie communism and anarchism is the means of getting there.
Communists want a vanguard state to slowly whittle away.
Anarchists want to skip that step.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wrong.
To play Devil’s Advocate, communism looks good on paper. The problem is human beings are involved. There will always be narcissistic, greedy, and psychopathic individuals who will abuse the will of the people to take control. There has never been a truly successful communistic system of government. Well, maybe Jeebus and the Apostles, but even Judas sold out for the silver.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because you say so?
Nonsense.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
As an umbrella label? Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in extreme opposition to conservative views.
But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The desire to make everyone’s life better by progressing appropriate legislation.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
That’s so vague that a conservative could call themselves progressive because they think it’s saving lives to ban abortion.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 2 months ago
State ownership of utilities for one.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 months ago
What, progressives are in favour of state owned utils or aren’t? Explain yourself properly.
Illuminostro@lemmy.world 2 months ago
In regards to American politics, not individuals, he’s correct. The American “Progressive” party is majority Reagan Republicans. You have outliers like Bernie. Well, only Bernie.