Comment on Is everyone here leftist?

• Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Progressives aren’t a thing, it’s simply an Amaerica counter label to conservatives so they have something to attack.

  And as an anarchist, I’ve no problem being lumped in with like minded views.

  We’re leftists and proud of it.

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  • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Progressives aren’t a thing

    Because you say so?

    Nonsense.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As an umbrella label? Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in extreme opposition to conservative views.

      But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?

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      • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The desire to make everyone’s life better by progressing appropriate legislation.

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      • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        State ownership of utilities for one.

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    • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In regards to American politics, not individuals, he’s correct. The American “Progressive” party is majority Reagan Republicans. You have outliers like Bernie. Well, only Bernie.

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  • deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Communism is the conservative authoritarian dogma. The exact opossite of progress… or anarchy.

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    • sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lol, said confidently by someone who very clearly has not read anything marxist

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      • deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “In Marxist philosophy, the dictatorship of the proletariat is a condition in which the proletariat, or working class, holds control over state power. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the transitional phase from a capitalist and a communist economy…”

        Except, there’s no such thing as a communist economy, so the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to reallocate. Then peoole start to flee across the barbed wire and the facade falls down.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re thinking of tankies.

      Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.

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      • Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?

        I think you’re describing anarchocommunism specifically. Which is "not all communism"™.

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    • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wrong.

      To play Devil’s Advocate, communism looks good on paper. The problem is human beings are involved. There will always be narcissistic, greedy, and psychopathic individuals who will abuse the will of the people to take control. There has never been a truly successful communistic system of government. Well, maybe Jeebus and the Apostles, but even Judas sold out for the silver.

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• Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why you gotta label me, bro?

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• andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why must we divide the tribe? I don’t know how leftist who can’t identify as such plans to exercise collective power. But you do you.

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