Comment on Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Shipping with Windows S. That’s Microsoft’s version of a Chromebook for some light web browsing for 188 dollars. I wouldn’t buy it but this doesn’t look like a rip off at this price point.

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  • cordlesslamp@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They could just raise the prize to $198 and slap another 4GB of RAM on it.

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    • n0clue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      And if they raised the price to $250, they could go with a faster processor and better wifi!

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        And if they raised another 2000$, they could add an RTX 4090 graphics card

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  • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    S mode does allow you to turn it off, so it’s more like a hobbled version of home.

    The computer is as bad as one I saw several years ago with 64g emmc and “Quad core processor.” not a quad core, it was literally the name that showed in system. It did have 4 cores: at 400Mhz, boosting to 1.1Ghz. Buyer changed their mind and we couldn’t give it away.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Of course that notebook is bad but for the price point of shitty hardware, you get shitty hardware. Apple sells shitty hardware at the cost of premium hardware.

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• homura1650@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  At a $188 price point. An addition 4GB of memory would probably add ~$10 to the cost, which is over a 5% increase. However, that is not the only component they cheaped out on. The linked unit also only has 64GB of storage, which they should probably increase to have a usable system …

  And soon you find that you just reinvented a mid-market device instead of the low-market device you were trying to sell.

  4GB of ram is still plenty to have a functioning computer. It will not be as capable of a more powerful computer, but that comes with the territory of buying the low cost version of a product.

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    If they wanted it to be as cheap as possible, they could have installed Linux on it.

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  • nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Now let me present you the laptops with 2GB of RAM still being sold here in Brazil: zoom.com.br/…/notebook-multilaser-legacy-cloud-pc…

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      And it’s not on Linux! Wow. Sounds so horrible.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    At that point you gotta wonder if it can keep up with an $80 Radius berry Pi, especially if HP tries to shoehorn Windows into that

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    • homura1650@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      In addition to the raw compute power, the HP laptop comrmes with a:

      • monitor
      • keyboard/trackpad
      • charger
      • windows 11
      • active cooling system
      • enclosure

      I’ve been looking for a lapdock [0], and the absolute low-end of the market goes for over $200, which is already more expensive than the hp laptop despite spending no money on any actual compute components. And, at that pricepoint, the lapdock will also be of significantly lower quality than the cheap hp laptop.

      Granted, this is because lapdocks are a fairly niche product that are almost always either a luxury purchase (individual users) or a rounding error (datacenter users)

      [0] Keyboard/monitor combo in a laptop form factor, but without a built in computer. It is intended to be used as an interface to an external computer (typically a smartphone or rackmounted server).

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• 31337@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I was looking at notebooks at Walmart the other day, and I was amazed that they almost all had less or the same amount of RAM as my phone.

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  • homura1650@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Miniaturization is amazing. The limiting factor to how powerful we can make phones is not space to put in computational units (processors,ram,etc). It is the ability to deal with the heat they generate (and the related issue of rationing a limited amount of battery power)

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• cultsuperstar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Sounds about right for HP.

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  • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I don’t even understand how HP still exists. Can anyone name a single product they’ve made in the last ~15 years that wasn’t a complete piece of junk?

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    • oo1@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Sauce

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    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I really like their pagewide xl printers, but those are purely aimed at businesses. Just to name one thing I like :D

      And those xl printers are the only thing that I can think off. I won’t even consider buying a current HP computer/laptop/small printer/…

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      HP printer ink, that is their main source of revenue

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• uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  And worst part: they installed Windows on it.

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• vingetcxly@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  4gb is acceptable. Some people just want a phone with a keyboard and bugger screen. Depends on the use case tho.

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