I’d love to see you run xcode 16 code completion on your superior OS. Send me a link once you’ve uploaded the vid.
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RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
I can’t believe, there’s no Linux reference yet!
Give your “8 gigs not enough” hardware to one of us and see it revived running faster than whatever you’re running now with your subpar OS.
el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Mojave@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Why limit it to proprietary software? Almost every linux distro can run Github Copilot X and Jetbrains, which both have had more time to be publicly used and tested and work better in my opinion.
Send me a video link of Mac having direct access to containers without using a VM (which ruins the point of containers). THAT is directly related to my actual work, as opposed to needing a robot to code for me specifically using Apple’s AI
el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Because that was what the article was about…I actually am a Linux user and fan, folks just misreading the intentions of my post.
I would genuinely love to see it, because I’m stuck on mac hardware to do my job and I really hope one day they get crucified for their anticompetative practices so I can freely choose the OS my business uses.
LinusSexTips@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Pls provide source code.
RedWeasel@lemmy.world 1 week ago
There is a project being worked on called Darling, but it isn’t ready yet. The developers are making progress though.
suction@lemmy.world 1 week ago
We all know how that will end
RedWeasel@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I actually bought a m1 mini for a linux low power server. I was getting tired of the Pi4 being so slow when I needed to compile something. Works real well, just need the Asahi team to get TB working. And for my server stuff, 8gb is plenty.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 week ago
You wouldn’t happen to run a jellyfin server on that mac mini would you? Currently looking to find something performant with small form factor and low power consumption.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’ve run Plex servers on Mac Minis (M1). Docker on MacOS runs well finally — the issues that were everywhere a couple of years ago are resolved.
It ran very well on the hardware. The OP of this post is right, 8gb is not enough in 2024; however I would also wager that the vast majority of commenters have not used MacOS recently or regularly. It is actually very performant and has a memory scheduler that rivals that found on GNU/Linux. Apple’s users aren’t wrong when they talk about how much better the OS is than Windows at using memory.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not sure about jellyfin, but I assume it uses ffmpeg? The M1 is fast enough that ffmpeg can re-encode raw video footage from a high end camera (talking file sizes in the 10s of gigabyte range) an order of magnitude faster than realtime.
That would be about 20W. Apparently it uses 5W while idle — which is low compared to an Intel CPU but actually surprisingly high.
Power consumption on my M1 laptop averages at about 2.5 watts with active use based on the battery size and how long it lasts on a charge and that includes the screen. Apple hasn’t optimised the Mac Mini for energy efficiency (though it is naturally pretty efficient).
TLDR if you really want the most energy efficient Mac, get a secondhand M1 MacBook Air.
uis@lemm.ee 1 week ago
The M1 is fast enough that ffmpeg can re-encode raw video footage from a high end camera (talking file sizes in the 10s of gigabyte range) an order of magnitude faster than realtime.
Depending on codec and settings, this might be super fast and super slow.
RedWeasel@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No I do not, but I don’t see any reason it shouldn’t work though. I have PiHole, Apache, email, cups and samba currently.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
I can run Arch Linux (BTW!) in a potato with starch RAM!
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
You can run Windows on 200 MB of RAM
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 week ago
Honestly I have no qualms with MacOS. Probably the best OS. Problem is you can’t run it on anything that is repairable or upgradeable, and in 7 years it won’t be supported any longer. If they would just sell me a $500 lifetime license for MacOS that I could install on a Framework laptop, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. But they know they make way more money by not making that option available.
suction@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What if I want to run applications that do not exist for Linux?
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
As I said: feel free to upgrade your MacBook just don’t throw the one with a “meager” 8 gigs away since it’s totally usable using a non-bloated system.
suction@lemmy.world 1 week ago
what’s it to you? do I know you??
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
You replied, I replied back. That’s how public social media work. It’s unlikely we know each other.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 week ago
Do you actually want to run an application that doesn’t exist on Linux?
I use a virtual machines for the 2 or 3 times a year I need to use a couple garbage windows-only programs. Usually for configuring some arcane piece of proprietary hardware that people were getting rid of because it is incompatible with everything.
suction@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You come to my house and talk big about how I should do this that and the other, frankly it’s disrespectful.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 week ago
“Disrespectful” would be telling you that you in particular should continue to use windows or mac, and avoid Linux like the plague.
mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Software and AI development would be hard with 8gb of RAM on Linux. Having you seen the memes on AI adding to global climate change? Not even Linux can fix the issues with ChatGPT…
prole@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
I don’t think anyone anywhere is claiming 8GB RAM is enough for software and AI development. Pretty sure we’re talking about consumer-grade hardware here.
monnier@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
My main development machine has 8 GB, for what it’s worth. And most of the software in use nowadays was developped when 8GB was a lot of RAM
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This. My Mac has 16GB but I use up half of it with a Linux virtual machine, since I use my Mac to write Linux software.
I don’t need to do that - I could totally run that software directly on my Mac, but I like having a dev environment where I can just delete it all and start over without affecting my main OS. I could totally work effectively with 8GB.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
The lede by OP here contains this:
So either RecluseRamble meant that development with a feature predictive code completion would work on 8 GB of RAM if you were using Linux or his comparison was shit.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
That’s absolutely what I’m saying. Apple is just holding back that feature for upselling (as always) and because it’s hardly possible to debloat macOS.
uis@lemm.ee 1 week ago
I do. GCC doesn’t need much. Vim/emacs work fine with 1GB of RAM. With 2 GB you can run QtCreator instead of vim.
mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Macbook Pros aren’t really consumer grade hardware. Nor are they priced like consumer grade hardware.
RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Apple products in general aren’t.
uis@lemm.ee 1 week ago
They are even below that.