Yes, but congress just authorized a bunch of new surveillance
Comment on TikTok sues to block prospective US app ban
Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wouldn’t actual data privacy laws stop this all the same? I can’t help but feel this weird song and dance avoiding the privacy argument exists so US companies don’t get in the crossfire for doing the same shit with your data.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 months ago
No, because it’s more about the curation algorithm than it is about the data or privacy.
Regulating curation is a clear violation of free speech laws for citizens, but foreign entity that controls TikTok has no such protections. Giving them this protection could be a dangerous precedent.
- [networkcontagion.us/…/A-Tik-Tok-ing-Timebomb_12.2…](A study about TikTok’s pro-China tip and algorithm manipulation)
- [www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/…/677806/](An article about the history of US regulation over foreign country’s and their broadcast powers)
archomrade@midwest.social 6 months ago
This is still a problem with US based platforms, though.
I would think people of the fediverse of all places would feel strongly about allowing users to control their own duration, rather than allowing private companies dictate what individual users see.
Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Affective legislation rather knee jerk reactionary politics? Not in America, buddy.
Remember the golden rule of American thought:
CHINA BAD.
slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Both can be true, poor US legislation that protects their buddies (investors), and China’s bad
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
America already controls the TikTok servers. It all needs to be hosted on Oracle, and Oracle can see the source code.
The ban makes no sense seeing the previous requirements.
lanolinoil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oracle can see the source code
What? Surely that’s not true
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 months ago
Oracle can see the source code or the binary?
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah I don’t think this person knows what they’re talking about, they must either think ByteDance is hosting the source code on Oracle’s servers or they somehow think that binaries are the same as source code 🤷
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think this person very well knows what they are talking about
TikTok got forced to host all on Oracle servers and store all information there. And have mandatory code inspections.
This was after Trump tried to ban it citing “security concerns”.
The funniest part is that back then Microsoft was supposedly trying to buy TikTok and Trump made sure that wouldn’t happen
Microsoft was reported to be in talks of acquiring TikTok. Later that day, President Trump announced plans to ban TikTok in the United States, and signaled opposition to any sale to a U.S.-based company. Trump’s ban threat and his indication he would oppose any sale to an American buyer was condemned by TikTok users, many of whom argued that national security concerns were being used as a cover by the administration to justify a ban as retaliation for pranks aimed at Trump by TikTok users (particularly, a ticket-purchasing effort to inflate projected and depress actual attendance of his June 20 campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma) and other content satirizing Trump or critical of him and his actions, especially in relation to his response to the George Floyd protests.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Where did you get the idea that Oracle can see their source code? That only applies if they host their source repository on Oracle, if they host the servers there chances are it’s binaries that are hosted on the server not the source code.
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
May 2023 - TikTok Will ‘Soon’ Grant Oracle Full Access to Code, Algorithm
(Bloomberg) – TikTok will “soon” grant Oracle Corp. full access to its source code, algorithm and content-moderation material as part of efforts to alleviate national security concerns about the app.
Oracle will also begin monitoring the controlled gateways where data comes in and out of the secure environment it set up on servers to host data from TikTok’s US users, according to a statement from the social media company Monday.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is about military bases, bud.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Then why is it not limited to military personnel?
huginn@feddit.it 6 months ago
No way in hell they’d ever argue data privacy.
That’s only for apple to pretend to care about while selling your data to brokers.
Nurgle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sorry Apple is selling user data to data brokers now?
prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah. They do have their own data collection practices and privacy policies. IIRC, meta was crying over Apple implementing permission data for apps since it would allow people to back off from meta but Apple would be sole winner from that move.
Nurgle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah I was curious about Apple selling data to brokers, which I think would be new news. For Meta yeah that was the ios14 update, which really messed with their bottom line apparently lol
huginn@feddit.it 6 months ago
I think I was mistaken on that point. They’re not publicly doing that - just selling ads.