Comment on Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two

ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• magic_lobster_party@kbin.run ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  1 dead whistleblower is a tragedy. 10 dead whistleblowers are a statistic.

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  • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    nice reference 10/10

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    • parpol@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Currently at 2/10 but they’ll get there.

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      • mars296@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        2/12

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    • Denvil@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      10/10 survive yes?

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    • elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I give it a perfect 5/7

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        With rice?

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• bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It certainly warrants investigation, but the way the second guy died is actually not particularly suspicious. He got pneumonia, then he got MRSA in a hospital. 50,000-100,000 people every year get MRSA in a hospital setting, almost always people of his demographic with pneumonia, and it is incredibly lethal. We have upwards of 10,000 deaths a year due to it. Again, almost all casualties are his demographic.

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  • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So in other words, very plausible deniability.

    allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun

    We had that tech in 1968. I’m pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create that outcome.

    Does this mean they did it? No.

    Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes.

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    • MonkderDritte@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      which could cause death in minutes without leaving a trace.

      Aside from the puncture wound.

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      • hark@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        From the article:

        All that would be left behind was a tiny red dot where the dart entered the body, undetectable to those who didn’t know to look for it.

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      • AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Which can be missed by an examiner

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      • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They may have ironed that out, this article is talking about tech that is more than half a century old. We got from first aeroplane to man on the moon in less than that.

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    • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So “it can be done” is now evidence of a grand conspiracy?

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      • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Does this mean they did it? No.

        Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)

        I stand by that statement, and don’t feel like trying again to connect the dots on the relevancy of my example. Whatever you are arguing about is - not the same.

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  • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And it is suspected that thousand of elderly people are murdered every year, but it is ruled as a natural death, because the demographic is prone to natural deaths and nobody bothers to check further.

    At the very least demanding a throughout investigation in both cases is absolutely reasonable.

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    • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The first thing I said was “it certainly warrants investigation.”

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• fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The first wasn’t coincidental. He said “hey they might murder me” then he died right before testifying.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well, iirc he didn’t show for his deposition, or the day after, or the day after that, at which point the lawyers sent people to find him and found he “committed suicide”.

    This is after he said “I am absolutely not going to commit suicide over this. If I die and people say it was suicide, I was killed.”

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• unreasonabro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Even one death under these circumstances is not a coincidence, and that ought to be coded into law. You’d better fucking well hope the person who blows a whistle on you is healthy - that’s the world we should move into.

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• agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Can’t or won’t?

  Seriously, though, I wouldn’t be surprised, if a bunch of suicides or “retractions” are happening soon.

  How about 2 million if you shut up? No? How about we publish this dirt on you? Would be a shame, if some nameless robber orphans your children.

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• Veneroso@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  How is your polonium tea comrade?

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• Got_Bent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Planely obvious

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• PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Any serious issue should have a paper trail of some sort. Emails, meetings, part rejections, that sort of thing. There are processes in place to allow anonymous reporting of some of these things.

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• Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  But you wont argue that 10 dead whistblowers can still be a tremendous coincidence, right?

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• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I still don’t see why they can’t.

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