It certainly warrants investigation, but the way the second guy died is actually not particularly suspicious. He got pneumonia, then he got MRSA in a hospital. 50,000-100,000 people every year get MRSA in a hospital setting, almost always people of his demographic with pneumonia, and it is incredibly lethal. We have upwards of 10,000 deaths a year due to it. Again, almost all casualties are his demographic.
ramble81@lemm.ee 8 months ago
One death is coincidental, two is suspicious, any more and it’s gonna become plainly obvious, and now there’s 10. That’s just delicious. They can’t silence them all.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
So in other words, very plausible deniability.
allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun
We had that tech in 1968. I’m pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create that outcome.
Does this mean they did it? No.
Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 8 months ago
which could cause death in minutes without leaving a trace.
Aside from the puncture wound.
hark@lemmy.world 8 months ago
From the article:
All that would be left behind was a tiny red dot where the dart entered the body, undetectable to those who didn’t know to look for it.
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Which can be missed by an examiner
maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 months ago
They may have ironed that out, this article is talking about tech that is more than half a century old. We got from first aeroplane to man on the moon in less than that.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
So “it can be done” is now evidence of a grand conspiracy?
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Does this mean they did it? No.
Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)
I stand by that statement, and don’t feel like trying again to connect the dots on the relevancy of my example. Whatever you are arguing about is - not the same.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 8 months ago
And it is suspected that thousand of elderly people are murdered every year, but it is ruled as a natural death, because the demographic is prone to natural deaths and nobody bothers to check further.
At the very least demanding a throughout investigation in both cases is absolutely reasonable.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
The first thing I said was “it certainly warrants investigation.”
fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The first wasn’t coincidental. He said “hey they might murder me” then he died right before testifying.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Well, iirc he didn’t show for his deposition, or the day after, or the day after that, at which point the lawyers sent people to find him and found he “committed suicide”.
This is after he said “I am absolutely not going to commit suicide over this. If I die and people say it was suicide, I was killed.”
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Even one death under these circumstances is not a coincidence, and that ought to be coded into law. You’d better fucking well hope the person who blows a whistle on you is healthy - that’s the world we should move into.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 months ago
Can’t or won’t?
Seriously, though, I wouldn’t be surprised, if a bunch of suicides or “retractions” are happening soon.
How about 2 million if you shut up? No? How about we publish this dirt on you? Would be a shame, if some nameless robber orphans your children.
Veneroso@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How is your polonium tea comrade?
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Planely obvious
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Any serious issue should have a paper trail of some sort. Emails, meetings, part rejections, that sort of thing. There are processes in place to allow anonymous reporting of some of these things.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But you wont argue that 10 dead whistblowers can still be a tremendous coincidence, right?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I still don’t see why they can’t.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 8 months ago
1 dead whistleblower is a tragedy. 10 dead whistleblowers are a statistic.
expatriado@lemmy.world 8 months ago
nice reference 10/10
parpol@programming.dev 8 months ago
mars296@kbin.social 8 months ago
2/12
Denvil@lemmy.one 8 months ago
10/10 survive yes?
elephantium@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I give it a perfect 5/7
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
With rice?