Comment on Bitwarden has launched a new authenticator app

cyrus@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is there a good reason I don’t know about to prefer this over Aegis?

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, they’re both ostensibly open source and standalone. I’m an avid Bitwarden Free user, but Aegis has been my go-to for a long time.

    If it’s a standalone completely offline app, like Aegis, I’m at a loss to what they could offer that is any different than what Aegis already offers.

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    • cyrus@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you look at the roadmap they have in the blogpost, they are apparently planning tighter integration with the existing bitwarden suite

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        …but wouldn’t that undermine the fact that it’s standalone and offline?

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How so? They already have TOTP built-in to the app if you pay for premium, so this is just a free competitor to their own offering.

        I’m guessing they’re trying to make it a “gateway” to getting people on Bitwarden. Start with the TOTP app, then use the password manager, then pay for premium. Or something like that.

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    • fluckx@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      2FA push is on the roadmap. Does aegis have that? Or am I just too dense to realise it does?

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean, Aegis is 2FA? That’s literally all it is? It generates One Time Pad codes for various sites and apps that support authentication apps.

        So, I’m not sure what you mean?

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  • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I used to use Aegis, but after setting up my own vaultwarden, I use the normal bitwarden app/plugin on all my systems for passwords and TOTP.

    The advantages are that I don’t need my phone to login, the keys are synced and backuped in the encrypted vaultwarden database, which I can then handle with normal server backup tools. It still works offline, because bitwarden app caches the password.

    This is IMO much more convenient and secure (in a way that loosing access to a device doesn’t shut you out, and you don’t need to trust third parties) then most other solutions.

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    • pitninja@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Even if I hosted my own BitWarden vault, I wouldn’t put my passwords and 2 factor tokens in the same place because it’s eliminating the benefits that 2 factor provides if someone somehow manages to get into my vault.

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      • rolling_resistance@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        2 factor came into our life because people were using same passwords everywhere. With unique passwords, which are easy with password managers, it’s rarely needed.

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      • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There is not much difference between having two apps (password manager and authenticator app) or one app, that does both on the same device.

        So, if you want more security, then you have to deal with a hardware token and never with a authenticator app. But then if you loose your token, then you have trouble.

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think it caches the password. Rather a decryption key is derived from your password and is used to unlock the encrypted blob.

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      • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What I meant is that is caches the password database for offline use.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For now: No.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  At this moment Aegis is far superior to bitwarden auth. But it looks promising.
  I really like the ability to “sideload” the icons for the codes and automatic encrypted backups to cloud storages.

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• zingo@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not switchin’ from Aegis. No sir’ee.

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• RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It might serve as an alternative to e.g Aegis to some.

  Does it have any killer features in favor of using the free app of an for-profit company instead of an established FOSS app?

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  • Tenkard@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bitwarden apps have been open source since the beginning, mobile + backend + web

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• lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use the TOPT features and i dont have a paid account

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you self-host? I think that’s another way to get the TOTP features w/o a paid account.

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    • lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably but i am not

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I haven’t been entirely happy with Bitwarden for other reasons. You can’t self host and share with one other person without paying them $40/year. Their advertising is deceptive, because they say you can do both for free. But that one or the other, not both.

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  • jo3shmoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think I realized that was a limitation because I’ve been using the Vaultwarden fork. github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

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  • cyrus@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Have you heard if VaultWarden?

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  • Vetinari@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As others have said vaultwarden is the solution here. It is free, you can manage multiple vaults, totp is free. All the platform bit warden apps & plugins work with it. Supposedly it is leaner and easier to set up. Don’t know for sure because it is all I have used.

    For shared passwords, I have a family vault where I put my streaming pws and such and everyone has access without having to share my personal vault.

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, VaultWarden sounds like the answer.

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