Comment on Bitwarden has launched a new authenticator app
federalreverse@feddit.de 6 months agoIt’s extremely convenient and not particularly safe. I love it, my FBI agent loves it, and my Russian hacker friend loves it too.
Why do you think its not safe? If you trust bitwarden to protect your passwords what exactly do you think is going to happen?
Even if bitwarden is compromised in someway, all that data is still encrypted and would still be highly unlikely to actually be accessed.
The only risk is if you use a bad master password. Which is the biggest risk of using a password manager regardless.
I think a bigger concern is if someone managed to access bitwarden on a logged in instance. If theres two apps for logging then both apps need to be accessible/compromised.
This seems more like a user issue then a security issue. If you are avoiding this feature because you have to idiot proof your security against yourself, your probably going to be compromised at some point anyway.
This seems easily avoidable by
If you are going to write “user issue” in the future, maybe stop and think. You might be calling someone dumb and be defending bad design at the same time.
The point of 2FA/MFA is that you need two separate things in order to gain access. By having them both be the same then suddenly the attacker only needs to get one factor. Sure, it’s probably low risk, but it’s still risk.
Basically then it degrades to a very strong password that can’t easily be phished.
Which is still pretty good in my book, but not as good as a second device.
Not really. You still should be use MFA to access the vault itself before you can even get to the Token.
Considering a password manager that also stores your second factor to be 2FA, assuming that it requires two factors to authenticate with on its own, is basically the same thing as considering logging into a site via SSO that itself requires two factors to be 2FA.
It’s also the same as considering a hardware security key with a PIN-protected Passkey to be 2FA.
Yes but you would still have 2FA.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
Yes but you would still have 2FA.
You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
To be fair, a lot of sites that I consider “low security” are starting to mandate 2fa. Password manager is perfect place for these, I have more going on in my life than copying numbers from device 1 to device 2 to get my garbage picked up.
emptyother@programming.dev 6 months ago
Yeah,when I got more than 30 totp accounts, I gave up on keeping them separate. Its still better than 1FA.