Comment on Bitwarden has launched a new authenticator app

ebits21@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• federalreverse@feddit.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s extremely convenient and not particularly safe. I love it, my FBI agent loves it, and my Russian hacker friend loves it too.

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  • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, a lot of sites that I consider “low security” are starting to mandate 2fa. Password manager is perfect place for these, I have more going on in my life than copying numbers from device 1 to device 2 to get my garbage picked up.

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    • emptyother@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah,when I got more than 30 totp accounts, I gave up on keeping them separate. Its still better than 1FA.

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  • Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why do you think its not safe? If you trust bitwarden to protect your passwords what exactly do you think is going to happen?

    Even if bitwarden is compromised in someway, all that data is still encrypted and would still be highly unlikely to actually be accessed.

    The only risk is if you use a bad master password. Which is the biggest risk of using a password manager regardless.

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    • rutrum@lm.paradisus.day ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think a bigger concern is if someone managed to access bitwarden on a logged in instance. If theres two apps for logging then both apps need to be accessible/compromised.

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      • Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This seems more like a user issue then a security issue. If you are avoiding this feature because you have to idiot proof your security against yourself, your probably going to be compromised at some point anyway.

        This seems easily avoidable by

        1. just have the vault timeout be set low and to logout.
        2. Not leaving your password manager unlocked and unattended (wtf are you thinking lol)

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The point of 2FA/MFA is that you need two separate things in order to gain access. By having them both be the same then suddenly the attacker only needs to get one factor. Sure, it’s probably low risk, but it’s still risk.

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      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Basically then it degrades to a very strong password that can’t easily be phished.

        Which is still pretty good in my book, but not as good as a second device.

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      • hedgehog@ttrpg.network ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Considering a password manager that also stores your second factor to be 2FA, assuming that it requires two factors to authenticate with on its own, is basically the same thing as considering logging into a site via SSO that itself requires two factors to be 2FA.

        It’s also the same as considering a hardware security key with a PIN-protected Passkey to be 2FA.

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      • Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes but you would still have 2FA.

        You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.

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      • Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes but you would still have 2FA.

        You would still be using 2fa to access your vault. So in effect anything in that vault has more then 2 factors of authentication as it requires MFA just to get to the password.

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