It’s all mind-melting in my experience
Comment on 30% of Children Ages 5-7 Are on TikTok
tal@lemmy.today 6 months ago
My brief forays into both TikTok and YouTube Shorts have left me profoundly unimpressed with the short-form video.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Literally proven to ruin attention span in children and essentially cause ADHD, can also easily cause depression by constantly seeing (usually) fake people flaunting their (usually) fake life and wealth.
Not to mention the proliferation of insane conspiracy theories, absolute nonsense and usually harmful ‘advice’ of one kind or another, ‘being rich is the only thing that matters so here is a scam to show you how!’ of all kinds of flavors…
Brain rot.
far_university1990@feddit.de 6 months ago
Literally proven to ruin attention span in children and essentially cause ADHD
Please link source, interested in reading.
Plopp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Having recently been diagnosed with ADHD I’ve taken part in several classes on ADHD to learn more about it. And the consensus is that no external factors like that cause ADHD. However, I’m sure this topic of algorithm driven addictive short form videos for a very young audience is being studied more now than ever so who knows what the consensus on that will be in the future. Causing ADHD or not, I don’t think it’s healthy either way.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
So, perhaps ‘essentially cause ADHD’ is a bit strong, but there are absolutely studies that show that exposure to / addiction to short form video content impair focus, cause/exacerbate attention deficits, cause/exacerbate difficulty maintaining attention, as well as impair the ability to study and perform academically, worsen overall mental health etc.
Oh, and short form video content is also found to be addictive as well.
www.tandfonline.com/doi/…/0144929X.2022.2151512
www.cell.com/heliyon/…/S2405-8440(24)06377-1
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9127725/
In summary, brain rot.
Theres also studies which show, hilariously, that a good amount of mental health ‘advice’ on such short form content platforms is garbage.
journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/…/07067437221082854
And to round it out, heres a study on negative body image perception and self objectification amongst girls/women by short form content:
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S1740144523000876?via%3Di…
In fairness, this study does find that negative self perception and self objectification increase with viewing either short or long form video content or images featuring ‘ideal’ women, as this sort of thing has been long studied before ‘social media’ even existed (TV, Magazines, Movies, etc).
So, while objectification and body image problems from media exposure are not new, the proliferation and exposure amount are increased dramatically in the age of widespread social media.
I would be willing to bet that had a similar study as this one been done on boys/men it would show similar results.
thehatfox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
can also easily cause depression by constantly seeing (usually) fake people flaunting their (usually) fake life and wealth
That’s a problem with many social media platforms and the “influencer” culture they host. Instagram has been particularly criticised for this.
These heavily curated content posted on these platforms does not reflect the warts and all reality of real life. People who get too engrossed in it can quickly start to feel their lives are inadequate.
I’m not sure what the solution is for this, other than trying to better regulate the algorithms used by these platforms.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Well, better regulation of algorithms is not a thing that is going to happen.
Assuming you could actually specify this kind of content… which you probably can with some degree from the standpoint of the engineers behind the things… theres basically no way to ban or limit this kind of content in a law.
1: Giant Freedom of Speech based opposition. To some extent, yeah if you penalize it, well you are limiting free speech and artistic expression, is what will be claimed.
2: Without literally having access to the way the algorithm works, it’d be a massive tome of a law to try to pass. And also software changes, so … you can probably rewrite your way around a specific way to limit this kind of content.
I don’t know. Maybe you could pass a law that mandates if your platform has x many users or daily views, you must provide to the user far, far more in depth means to manage their own content they are thrown up.
Or perhaps you could have some kind of FAA type entity created, which is supposed to be deeply involved in the behind the scenes aspects of basically standard operation of the social media industry, as the FAA is with aircraft manufacture/airspace/airports.
Of course the counter point to that is well just look at the FAA and Boeing. Regulatory capture is a thing.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Coming to lemmy has made me have more negative views of how much I use and should be using Linux.
I only have it on one device atm…
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You literally are posting on a site where every 3rd post is defending genocide…
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
???
I must not be part of the same lemmy communities as you?
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
There was that brief period of time where Vine existed and had actual quality content.
Then the short video format was shittified after everyone began doing it, and fairly rapidly devolved into mindless attention seeking nonsense / micro personal update vlog… or worse.
dmtalon@infosec.pub 6 months ago
Well humans are making them. Vine and other early adopter places (Lemmy) are nice until the “masses” find it.
It’s awful, but people eat it up. Add in profit margins and companies jump on smelling that sweet sweet profit.
Tik Tok is blocked in my house but unfortunately reels/yt shorts have no easy way to block without affecting the rest of the service.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Yep, same story with basically every cool or neat thing ever: once it gets popular, it gets exploited and/or exploitative.
I still remember the moment my and all my friend’s parents joined Facebook and I realized I wasn’t seeing stuff from my friends any more, instead, inane drek about pets and clouds and bible verses.
God I miss the MySpace days.
Well, I do hope reddit dies an awful death, but I also fear the influx of insufferable people.
It really sucks that I actually am a leftist but just immediately blocked ml and hexbear, because if you say certain things or have certain opinions that are not in line with the views of basically delusional tankies, everyone screams until youre banned.
At least we dont have a huge amount of right wing fuckos as they seem to have just gone to ferment in their own echo chambers elsewhere.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I think long videos are expensive.
Social media companies like engagement. So 3 20s videos would give you more data from the user than 1 60s video.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s three times the marketing data. And then if you’re watching 2 22nd videos and 122nd ad that’s a full third of your watch time as ads.
reddig33@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Jack Dorsey was just a year or too early with Vine it seems.
DdCno1@kbin.social 6 months ago
He didn't have the resources and determination of the Chinese state behind him.
Pretzilla@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And lacking destructive impulse and intent
linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Brief is the ticket. The more you hot ot not it, the better it gets at matching you. After a couple days of swipes, you’ll get a constant stream of stuff you’ll actually want to see. IG and TT are good at this, yt shorts are pretty bad at it.
I’ve been trying to stay out of the algorithms. I watch YT by channels only, left Reddit for Lemmy, listed fb to friends walls. TT and IG only make it to me if friends or family share it. I’ll go watch it then GTFO.
thehatfox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s all vertical video as well. YouTube pushes Shorts fairly aggressively on the desktop website, and it’s a crappy experience.
Plopp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Be glad Youtube still works on the desktop at all. A very large majority of users watch on their phones and YouTube only cares about profits.
franklin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I already knew this but still what a terrifying prospect, I love my phone but there are some things a desktop is just better for
Plopp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah I’m one of the ten people who can’t stand watching videos on my phone. I draw the line at gifs.
thejml@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I tend to watch YouTube on my phone while traveling, waiting, relaxing and don’t feel like turning on the TV… but always in landscape orientation. I can’t stand vertical videos.
gunpachi@lemmings.world 6 months ago
I use a firefox addon to hide the shorts . works most of the time I guess.
spez_@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No one uses desktop
Snazz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I uninstalled the YT app on my phone and use the desktop site exclusively now. Can’t stand watching without ad block and sponsor block.