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casmael@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Isoprenoid@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fml I’m going to have to learn what a package manager is ew

  Two minutes later

  “Wait, you mean I get fast, convenient package delivery without being advertised to?”

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• photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The package manager was actually one of the simpler things about switching to Linux in my experience

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Here i was thinking we were talking about men’s underwear

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    • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ;) package managed

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      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        damn, i wasn’t ready. i got fucked up

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  • ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Package managers was one of things that I had hard time adjusting to when I first adopted Linux, since I was so used to just searching for software on the internet, downloading, and installing it when I was using Windows. Now that I’m comfortable with a package manager, I find the Windows experience of installing software to be so much worse. It’s so much nicer to just install software using one or two commands in the terminal.

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    • Bulletdust@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This was my experience precisely. These days, installing some .msi or .exe.from some obscure corner of the internet seems somewhat ass backwards.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s often really hard to get around that “culture” barrier of just not downloading EXEs. Once you figure that out, it’s so much easier.

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• vinyl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Out of all of things in Linux a package manager most of the time is there to save your sanity.

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• ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I feel angry when I have to hunt down the installer for an application under Windows, and then know I have to go find it again later to update it. I have no clue how I got by without a package manager on Windows. Though if they had one, you have to know it would be complete intrusive dogshit about 5 minutes into its existence.

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  • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can use the official WinGet package manager for Windows pretty easily.

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    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Shhhhh Windows bad! /s

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      • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I mean… Windows is bad in many respects, but that respect isn’t necessarily one of them.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      you can also just use linux. Every flavor of linux except for nix (kind of) and LFS have a package manager

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  • glitchy_nobody@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As a former Windows user, Chocolatey is a great way to get used to a package manager through Windows. I used it to install stuff like hwinfo or wiztree.

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Chocolatey’s saving grace is that it’s third party. IDK how well it’s maintained and expanded, it’s been some time since I used it and there wasn’t much on it when I did.

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      • glitchy_nobody@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They have a database of packages on their site. This page also popped up with info on how packages are moderated and stuff too.

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i still dont fucking understand updating packages on windows. God forbid you install it in a different directory 3 months from now when you no longer remember where you installed it.

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• stinerman@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve been using some Linux flavor for about 15 years. The biggest thing about switching (at least back then) was I knew how to configure Windows just to my liking. With Linux it was a lot more difficult because I had to google everything. Like “how do I change the wallpaper?” How do I get the login screen to appear on the correct monitor, etc. It was just frustrating because I knew how to do this in Windows, but I felt like a major noob again with Linux.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    15 years ago, you had to google everything, but people starting today will find it much easier with any of the modern GUIs.

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yup same here. But I’ve compiled my own kernel already…copy pasting instructions. I’ve chrooted to a failed X computer from a USB Linux to then fix X and go back to a good computer. I mean there are levels of engagement and it just takes time to learn. But certainly android users are using a Linux-like system themselves not knowing anything about the levels below where all the action is. You can make Linux as dumb as windows 3.0…well maybe not as dumb. And you can make it as configurable as you want. I mean, you could even rewrite all modules and recompile them such that if a virus is hitting all other Ubuntus or mints, your system would be fine because it was different by a single letter or something as such.

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• Neon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  use NixOS to get absolutely fucked.

  I use NixOS btw

  (don’t actually use NixOS as your first distro. It is really amazing and cool, but the learning curve will be so steep, it will kill you)

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• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Dont forget dependencies

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  • casmael@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t know about them in order to forget :,(

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• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  package managers are your heaven, and a windows users hell.

  They’re great.

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