Given how terrible Teams performes, I’d dread to have merely 8GB to run it on.
Comment on Apple keeps flogging 8GB of RAM for its Mac computers but it's still a dead horse
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
The 8gb ram MacBook works great for your average Mac user. The person who uses it for writing resumes and surfing YouTube which I’m sure is a huge chunk of the market. Devs/Gamers/power users can’t make do with 8gb, but my sister in law who just does paper work and teams meetings all day is served well by her 2016 laptop, and wouldn’t have any issue with an 8gb MacBook.
TwoCubed@feddit.de 2 months ago
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
If you ran teams on the CERN supercomputer I’m pretty sure it would use up all the RAM as well. The more you have the more it seems to eat up.
Very much like Chrome.
Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Yeah it works fine by swapping and eating away the SSD
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 months ago
The NON-USER-REPLACEABLE SSD.
wax@feddit.nu 2 months ago
It has terrible future proofing however. Sure, apple is generally good at supporting their devices, but I’m sure a device with more than 8 would remain usable for a longer time.
Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Generally good at supporting phones but not at supporting laptops, a 5-6 years lifetime is unacceptable from an environmental point of view.
I experienced it last week when I turned on an old Mac with MacOS 10.7. It can’t run anything. Everything that you download doesn’t run anymore, Firefox and chrome are limited to some ancient version like 40 that breaks every modern website and due to some expired SSL root certificate you can’t access any website that’s using let’s encrypt which is a big chunk.
And it’s like this not from recently but at least 5 years, so it was put in a corner and never turned on anymore until last week
It can theoretically be updated to some newer version but the updater to 10.8 has been delisted from the store so you have to alternatively source that.
For comparison, a PC that was purchased the year prior to that Mac is running the latest version of windows 10 without any issue (except slowness due to the 1st gen core architecture)
wax@feddit.nu 2 months ago
Ah, thats terrible then. A computer should last longer than that, especially with a battery replacement mid-life
jeremyparker@programming.dev 2 months ago
The 8gb ram MacBook works great for […] writing resumes…
Um I’m not sure where you heard that but ChatGPT requires a shit ton of memory
(Sorry, I’ll show myself out)
ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Except it’s cost 3x more than average 8GB ram laptops
Opafi@feddit.de 2 months ago
If the alternative is Windows which is increasingly filled with ads or Linux which shifts the burden of computer administration to a user who might not have a clue about what they’re supposed to do if their WiFi doesn’t “just work”, paying for a managed walled garden that doesn’t try to install candy crush without you asking for it isn’t such a bad option.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
The alternative is praying and absolutely exorbitant price a device that cannot be fixed by the user.
supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not cost effective by any means, but then again none buys apple for cost effective anything. Some people just the brand it seems 🤦
abrinael@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How long is the average laptop usable, though? I still have a 2012 MacBook Air with 4GB of ram that gets daily use with no visible issues. I don’t feel like it’s slow. I don’t feel like there’s much daily business it can’t do (mostly web/email/pdfs/virtual meetings or classes/excel/word). I’ve also had about 4 windows laptops since about 2011. My primary desktop is a windows gaming PC and I complain more about its quirks than I do about the Mac.
WordBox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If your use case doesn’t require a lot, it’s not really going to matter mac or windows… If you’re spending the same amount of money. I have a 2010 Dell m11x that’s just fine for productivity. It was $900ish then.
PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Rocking a Dell latitude 3460 Core i5-5200U (2016?) with SSD and upgraded 16gb ram with win 11 running fine. It’s a flimsy pos I think it was meant for the Indian market, but I paid sub $100 for it 4+ years ago. Sure, I’m not gaming on it, but it works just fine for laptop activities.
pycorax@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My 2009 Macbook became slow as heck after installing Mountain Lion on it 4 years after I got it, taking half an hour to even boot up. Ironically, Windows on it was a lot more usable. I agree that yea, there are cheap Windows laptops that are pretty bad but all the laptops I’ve had after that which I paid similar or slightly less for, have been far more reliable and longer lasting than my Macbook ever had.
And as for complaints, doesn’t that really depend on what you’re used to? Every time I have to use a Mac, I find a quirk that I can complain about every other minute but that’s just because I’m used to the Windows workflow or Linux where I can modify it to work the way I want it to.
RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Pretty sure it’d still drastically outperform every single other 8gb ram laptop out there though, perhaps even 3x faster. Not saying it shouldn’t have a ton more ram though, 8gb on anything expensive is pretty rude.