Its completely believable that it was targeted for fall of this year to be announced in this months nintendo direct, but they ran into complications.
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jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Was targeted for the end of 2024…”
No it wasn’t. If it was coming out this year, there would have been an official announcement. There hasn’t been.
blargerer@kbin.social 4 months ago
PrettyLights@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m still waiting on the Switch Pro that’s been clickbaited by so many “insiders” and analysts over the years.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The thing you learn by watching all of this for decades is that the “insiders” and “analysts” are talking out their ass most of the time.
My favorite was a guy named Michael Pachter, back in the PS2 era he was saying “Oh yeah, there won’t be a shortage of PS2s because Sony can just re-direct some from Europe…”
Forgetting that neither the European PAL video standard nor the 220 voltage system will work in the US…
XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I agree that they shouldn’t say that,it wasn’t announced. But your wording you make it sound like that would be impossible like they would have announced it already, maybe is just me making up things on my mind sorry if that was not your intention.
We are on just February… like you don’t have to announce it on Jan 1, if it releases around Q4 for example.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you’re releasing a console in a specific year, the announcement to publishers and vendors has to happen the year before.
There has been no announcement.
If it’s coming in '25, there will be an announcement sometime this year, and this aint it.
XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
If you’re releasing a console in a specific year, the announcement to publishers and vendors has to happen the year before.
Why? In any case when you say publisher and vendors you mean a close doors thing? Or a public one which is basically the announcement for everybody? Because if it was a private thing…it could have happened no? I don’t think the previous Switch was leaked with something like that so earlier…but maybe I misremember.
In any case for the rest the timing could have been fine, the Switch for example was announced barely 5 months before release, October 2016 and released March 2017.
Like the new one could have been announced in the next months and release after the summer for example without much issue.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Publishers need time to develop the software, distributors need time to merchandise and sell the product, retailers need time to prepare the display space.
None of this is instant. A console launch is a year long project.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
It would have been announced direct to you!
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Right. This happens all the time with Nintendo. The reason their hardware and games are so good is because they spend the time to get it right before releasing it. Expect for online, they just always suck at that.
forrgott@lemm.ee 4 months ago
But their hardware isn’t good. Recently, the hardware has been more of a gimmick than anything. Not to mention the infamous issue of joycon drift, and keep in mind this is hardly the first time they’ve had issues with low quality parts, either.
I agree about them taking the time to make sure their games are as good they can make em.
Bugger@mander.xyz 4 months ago
The low quality parts thing can’t be overstated. The original DS was really the last “Nintendium” quality hardware in my book. The DS Lite had a ton of issues people tend to forget about. Extremely flaky shoulder buttons, yellowed screens, and cracked hinges were not a question of if, but when. Mine lasted about 6 months before the R button stopped working reliably. The first generation 3DS was a step back in the right direction, and mine is still going strong, but the circle pad longevity is dubious and the bottom screen plastic scratches if you look at it wrong. Then came the New 3DS, which looked good on paper but the New 3DS LL was a huge disappointment. The backplate cracks around the screws, the hinge has tons of flop in it, and within a year the paint and coating was flaking off of the top shell leaving a ~2cm patch of bare metal. Then came the Switch, with the lowest quality sticks I’ve ever seen. Even my Switch Pro Controller drifts like crazy.
Knowing Nintendo the Switch 2 will already be obsolete at launch and power users will get better performance emulating the damn thing on modern hardware instead. Fool me twice, I, uh, won’t get fooled again, or something.
forrgott@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Tell me about. I can almost emulate the Switch on my rather ancient Pixel 4a.
randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
This is the reason I believe it’s delayed. Tinfoil hat rant incoming:
Nintendo usually is ready to go for obsolete cheaper designs to maximize profit on hardware. However the Nvidia tegra family successor for entertainment devices never materialized (I won’t count anything on the Jetson platform). These chips never came down in price either. Nvidia pretty much dropped everything related to gaming once deep learning became its future cash cow. No shield tablets, android TV’s, or gaming devices anymore. Nvidia has disappeared from the consumer arm market.
Until now. Nvidia recently been looking to bring derivatives of its Grace Hopper platform to desktops and laptops in the near future. I’m sure the timing has to do with the rumors that Qualcomm is going out as M$oft’s exclusive arm for windows partner. There is a major urge in the AI field to have development uniformity across platforms and therefore arm coming directly to the developer is speeding up everyday (apple is the only name in the game atm).
That puts Nintendo in a place where to get priority, they will need to bid high for hardware. I don’t think they will. They know they make toys and they will just keep stretching the life span of the switch. It’s probably a better strategy anyway as Nintendo Remains in demand and they have no need to be a loss leader on hardware.
We think 8 years is long for a console but Nintendo dragged out it’s Gamcube, Wii, Wii U dynasty of hardware for almost 16 years before moving to a new platform. The DS hardware line lasted much longer.
We’ll get a switch 2 when Nintendo can get cheap Arm Chips.
End of rant.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Stick drift is a solved problem. All manufacturers need to just accept it and pay the additional cost for the better technology.
Potentiometers wear out, causing stick drift. Hall effect sensors don’t experience wear like that.
Anyone looking to replace a controller of any kind needs to ignore most controllers and focus on ones with Hall effect sensors instead, the other components will likely be higher quality as well simply because the manufacturer isn’t focusing on cost reduction to an extreme.
GuliKit even makes drop-in replacement Hall effect sticks you can put into your existing joy-cons.
M137@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Nintendo hardware is crap though… the switch feels like a crappy knockoff of something that doesn’t exist. And the software itself is crap too, it’s only the games that are good.
sugartits@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well that’s good then. As that’s kinda the point of this thing…