Exactly. As a musician many paid music plugins simply don’t work on Linux because of all the installers attached to them. Also, I design with the Adobe suite for my work, also not viable on Linux (I believe?). I would love to use Linux, but for my needs it’s simply a no go.This is what annoys me about all the “just use linux” comments. There are usecases where it’s simply not an option.
Comment on Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has replaced the Hide Desktop icon with Copilot.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Switch to Linux!
As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you’re just an annoying person.
Drummyralf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I’ve gotten every single Windows VST I’ve used working on Linux with WINE. Some of them require extra work (Serum and anything needing Native Access specifically), but they still work.
I’ve also tried both Ableton and FL Studio in WINE, and they both work fine as well.
Drummyralf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hmm interesting. I’m a Cubase user with many steinberg plugins and some Arturia stuff. When I googled it, I didn’t seem to find much information about Linux support. But maybe I should give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Can’t hurt! Might run into a speedbump or two where you have to do a DLL override or something, but you might get lucky and not have to do anything.
I haven’t tried Cubase, though.
GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Ableton working in Wine you say…? Thank you for sharing, as that would be excellent to try! :)
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Yeah. I’d still recommend Ableton users try out Bitwig, though, regardless of OS. It’s a fantastic DAW that also happens to have native Linux support.
But yeah, Ableton should work fine with WINE, along with your VSTs.
GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Agreed, not just plugins its also Ableton Live for me! There is nothing that scratches that for me, bitwig does look promising eventually though. :)
Then on top of that wanting to develop games without learning another game engine (I’m far in and can’t change engine without starting again)
And I wanna play Baldurs Gate 3 again dammit! (To be fair I think that might work and haven’t looked) :) .
I used Linux for 5 years and loved it, have a pi and a degoogled Foss phone as much as possible. I am an ally to it all, but have usecases which dictate Windows … I think it’s not unreasonable to want something to get better without binning 70℅ of why I use my computer. :)
index@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m gonna keep eating unhealthy food in large quantities, nobody should tell me what to do or what works for me…
Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Hey, just keep doing whatever you want. Just rest assured that virtually everybody is going to ignore you.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 months ago
“Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I’m not going to.”
Engywuck@lemm.ee 8 months ago
People don’t switch just because of some minor inconvenience (as if Linux didn’t have any) and outside of Lemmy/the Fediverse echo chamber very few people are concerned about privacy. They will switch (maybe) if the new tool works better for them than tge previous tool. Otherwise, why should they bother. Linux is my primary OS since many years, but it isn’t everybody’s cup of tea.
whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This echo chamber gets LOUD, too!
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
The thing is, is that it really doesn’t affect people in the way you guys seem to imagine.
I’ve used Linux, MacOS, and Windows. Currently use Windows for work as a C# . net, SQL / GraphQL, and React TypeScript developer and although I was shocked they’re all pro windows, coming from MacOS. Once you get used to it you don’t really notice the shit stuff as you just do what you’re doing.
I would still rate my experiences in this order though: MacOS, Linux, Windows. Best to worst, but like I said even though in now use the worst in my opinion it really doesn’t have much of an impact. Plus if I were to use Linux I’d need to geek out and waste so much time configuring it and I’m past that stage.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I work in healthcate and use windows, at work and at home if I need to do work related stuff. I don’t mind windows at work as it’s been configured for the purpose and all the shitty bits are switched off - something Microsoft let’s it’s business users do. It’s a decent operating system when it’s set up to do what it needs to do, and I’m very familiar with it from using it since Windows 95.
I used to use windows at home and had Linux for occasional interest. But in the last few years I’ve moved away from windows and now I’m on Linux as my main driver on multiple devices.
For home users Windows is getting pretty shitty - it steals data all the time with numerous privacy settings you have to set to try and stop it, it tries to force you ads, it tries to force you to use its Web browser, it bundles lots of sponsored apps and when it does a big update it resets alot of your choices on privacy plus reinstalls removed bundle apps. It also throws new feature at you which take up resources and impact privacy.
It’s really a chore to use windows now; it feels like a constant battle to make sure it’s not intruding on your data and privacy or showing you ads. I now use windows as the exception when there is a specific game that does work in Linux. The rest of the time I boot into Linux
I know it’s probably a case of “who asked” but I I guess I just mean I get that windows can be decent for work related stuff but when it comes to personal stuff it’s a bit of a nightmare. And I guess it also comes down to whether the privacy invasion and advertising bothers users. Bothers me a lot.
fishos@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Most people don’t care because most of your problems are all privacy related. And that’s what Linux people don’t seem to get. They rant and rave about how much better Linux is… for privacy. But the average Joe doesn’t know or care that data is being collected and for the most part it doesn’t affect them. It’s just some Boogeyman being thrown at them. What they care about is ease of use and convience. They don’t dig into those details because, for the most part, they’re not even aware.
When Linux people say it’s a “better experience”, they largely mean detailed customization and more privacy.
When Windows people say it’s a “better experience”, they mostly mean that it’s the same relatively easy to use experience on every device and it Just Works®.
They’re both right. But each side argues their side of the conversation not seeing that the other side has a perfectly justified use case for theirs. It’s like arguing that everyone should drive a van and not understanding why someone might not want one.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 8 months ago
No, no. You’re welcome here too and your experience is really helpful to share, and also helps to dispell this idea that all Linux users are basement geeks pushing a software cult LOL.
I’m the same way, right there with you. I loved classic Windows for decades. My real last straw was when I was helping my sister with a reinstall and discovered firsthand how pushy they were being with forcing a Microsoft Account.
“Oh no problem, you just have to disable WiFi completely via the switch, otherwise it’ll complain that you need an internet connection, so then you need to try three times unsuccessfully on purpose and THEN it’ll let you make a local account.”
“Ok they don’t do that anymore, now you need to use a keyboard shortcut to open a CMD prompt, disable a service…”
It’s completely blunt anymore how Microsoft feels about customers: They think we’re stupid cattle they’ve been raising since the 90’s to “click OK” and make accounts for anything they want. I wish they weren’t so right…
Since then, I found terminal stuff to actually be fun and at least Linux feels like it’s MY machine, not like I paid $100+ for a license key to rent their software that always begs me for more and rats on me at every turn.
But yeah, “just switch” isn’t helping anyone. We need to guide and support more people into it
TheFonz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Get AutoCAD on Linux and I’m there buddy. Some of us need to work.
Zetta@mander.xyz 8 months ago
True, the biggest sore points of Linux is Windows software support. This probably won’t work for you because you seem to use AutoCAD for work, but for me I was able to just find alternatives to programs that were not available anymore when I switched to Linux.
TheFonz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
For sure. I would love to ditch Autocad, but that would require me convincing my entire industry. I hate AutoCAD.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Autodesk is the only entity who would be able to do that, due to the code being proprietary.
Not impossible to happen, though. Autodesk already has Maya available for Linux.
Obviously there are alternatives like FreeCAD, but alternatives aren’t always an option.
Also, while AutoCAD might not work right now, WINE is getting better rapidly, and, while not guaranteed, it (along with Adobe programs) could theoretically work in the future without them needing to port the software. Of course, the companies porting the software would be the preferred solution here.
Alborlin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hello leave AutoCAD, what about word and EXCEL. now you and Linux dudebros will tell me there are alternatives on Linux like libre office and what not. To them I say this
TheFonz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m curious what their reason for porting Maya was? That’s really interesting.
kronarbob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe they are not Linux users, maybe they are Microsoft employees trying to keep you on Windows by making Linux users look obnoxious.
Contend6248@feddit.de 8 months ago
I for one enjoy salty Microsoft tears, just makes me feel better with my joice completely ditching them.
Keep 'em coming.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 months ago
Literally what? I’m a Linux user bro