But increasingly the batteries are glued in.
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Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 months ago
If you don’t ever charge it to over 80% then it’s effectively already degraded 20% since the day you got it. I’ll rather just use it as intented and then replace the battery when it no longer holds charge. That’s just one of the reasons I didn’t buy one with built in battery.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Thanks to EU this will be changing in the near future. Personally I’m one of the stubborn ones who refused to buy devices with non-removable batteries and by the looks of it I will never have to either. Hopefully this applies to the headphone jack aswell.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 months ago
The USB C to audio jack is ok. I’d like to have replaceable batteries, but my last few phones there wasn’t one that had that and what else I wanted. I had to compromise. Glad the EU is forcing things to improve.
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I strongly disagree.
I have yet to buy a phone without a headphone jack.
I’ve got earphones that are 17 years old and sound great. An audio jack in the car that connects way faster than Bluetooth. A hifi older than me.
The amount of electrical waste and incompatibilities caused by ditching a universal standard is not small.
pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 7 months ago
So how do you charge your phone while listening to music? Plug a splitter dongle into your headphone dongle? When this could be built into your phone? Yes a compromise.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Increasingly I buy fairphones
jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 months ago
I nearly did, but I wanted to try GrapheneOS. Until now I’ve been LinageOS without Google (over a decade), but I’ve had to compromise and wanted to reduce how much that compromised me.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I know sooner or later I’ll have to degoogle. Maybe once I know the first thing about how to run my home server I’ll get to it.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 months ago
I’ve never seen an unreplaceable battery. Most phones use a glue that is easily removed with pull-tabs.
That being said it’s still a far cry from the devices of yore where you just popped off the back cover and slapped a new one in.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 months ago
I watched videos on it for my previous phone. You had to use a heat gun to warm the glue but not heat it too much or you damage the screen. It was a bit of a knife edge temperature wise. Plus you then had to take most of the phone apart to get at the battery. It just wasn’t practical. Replacing the screen looked better, but was as easy as it was on an old phone I did. This stuff just isn’t designed with repair in mind.
solrize@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I replaced the battery in a 2016 iPhone SE and it was hell. Microsurgery to get the phone apart, multiple attempts at undoing the glue, and at the end the home key didn’t work. Result: upgraded phone.
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I miss the form factor off my HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2 for Americans). It had a neat, flip-out keyboard, swappable batteries, and a compact, 3.7 inch display.
the_third@feddit.de 7 months ago
If you don’t ever charge it to over 80% then it’s effectively already degraded 20%
I wouldn’t agree. I’m doing that with my car, e.g., or with my notebook. 80% on both never sees the end of a normal day around here, but if I know a day is going to be long, e.g. going to a conference or something like that, I remove the limit before and have 20% more range on the first leg of the trip or know safely that I won’t have to hunt for a plug in the hallway at a party in the evening. If I were to degrade the battery immediately I wouldn’t have that option.
superbirra@lemmy.world 7 months ago
but that’s an incommensurable, fallacious comparison. What the article talks about is battery life, not single charge duration
soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
This is my reasoning behind charging everything including my EV to 100%
cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 7 months ago
But you can still choose to charge it to 100% when you anticipate you need that extra 20%. So it’s not really “already degraded” it’s just “on demand”.
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Which has consequences. Spontaneously staying out if you didn’t decide to charge to 100% the night before and running out of battery.
It’s not “on demand” it’s “in stock ready for dispatch.”
I don’t want to have to order a day ahead to get a non-degraded battery.
cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 7 months ago
If you keep it at 80% it doesn’t take a day to charge to full. As long as you know 1 or 2 hours in advance, it’ll be full.
But yeah, if you’re use-case is that you spontaneously need to leave your charger and require your full battery capacity, you should keep charging it to full. Maybe even get a powerbank as well.
Ross_audio@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If anyone is living a life where they might not spontaneously “leave their charger” they’ve given up or have young children they have to be responsible for.
On weekdays I know what I’m doing from when I leave my house until work ends. I might have plans after that, I might not. But I’m not going to short charge my phone because I usually go home after work in case I don’t.
A phone battery should last as long as I might stay awake, that way I don’t have to think about it.
People generally underestimate the mental effort of tiny decisions and micromanaging things.
In general the most freeing thing someone can do to is ensure their future self doesn’t have to think about something.
Anyone micromanaging their phone battery is micro-damaging their mental health.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Now you’re spending limited cognitive resources to try and anticipate phone battery usage.
JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
While true, I consider it a reasonable trade. I so rarely need the 100% charge.