This is what the new European bill is forcing manufacturers to do.
Batteries of handheld electronics have to be replaceable.
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solrize@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just build phones with the understanding that batteries are consumables and make them easy to replace and standardized. Then swap in a new $5 battery when you need to so. Make the raw materials reclaimable too of course.
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No. People online have really misrepresented that bill.
All it says is that it should be easily replaceable by someone of moderate skill. I.e. still having to pry open your phone carefully, but now without using strong adhesive.
It also doesn’t apply for phone batteries over a certain size, or batteries that will still retain a set amount of capacity after a few years (I think 73%).
People are heavily, heavily mistaken if they think it’ll be a return to the days of trivially removable batteries.
Specal@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The biggest barrier for “most people with moderate skill” is having to acquire equipment to replace the battery. Once it becomes too much effort and cost it’s better for most consumers to take it to the manufacturer or 3rd party service for replacement.
I stopped replacing batteries once I needed to heat the adhesive to remove the back and screen as I don’t have that equipment to hand, and initial attempts caused damage to the screen and back cover.
solrize@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s a start but pretty weak.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Do most people not have the option to protect their battery already?
Virulent@reddthat.com 8 months ago
I think that’s a Samsung feature
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s built into my pixel as well. Shrug
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You have an older Pixel or just rooted, maybe? My 7 on the latest vanilla Android doesn’t seem to have it, and this thread seems to say it’s not available in the stock os.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 months ago
“Sleep time is estimated based on your usage patterns”
These systems exist on pretty much all modern phones, but they all work the same (shitty) way, by assuming your schedule is exactly the same every day and giving you zero programmable control.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
And on iPhone the system expects you want your battery to charge over 80% on a daily basis. On a Samsung phone the system knows you don’t want to go past 80% at all, so it sets that as the new maximum.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sure, but let’s also preserve current batteries as long as possible so we can lower our carbon foot print. We need to do both.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 months ago
To be clear, you are still taking about rechargeable batteries right? I agree those should be replaceable. I sure as hell don’t think phone should use single use batteries!
solrize@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes, 18650 or a standardized rectangular equivalent.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 months ago
A standard would be nice… I mean all phones are basically the same size and shape.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 months ago
But then you aren’t forced to buy a new phone every few years?
solrize@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What? No just a new battery. That’s the point.
Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That’s the point of what this guy is saying.
But the point of making batteries not easily removable (besides the waterproofing factor) is that when a repair shop charges them $150 to do it, lots of people will justify putting that money towards a new phone instead.
As someone who works on phones as a hobby, I’ve seen that the percentage of people who will either hire someone to do it or buy a different phone is near 100. It’s absolutely intentional.
JonEFive@midwest.social 8 months ago
Waterproofing is a lame excuse that I won’t accept from these manufacturers. It may be not as easy as just permanently gluing the thing together, but it’s definitely possible to have a sealed battery compartment.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They were being sarcastic and quoting something a phone manufacturer would say.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No one is forced. Especially with fast charging.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 months ago
Sure, if my battery lasts literally 30min, I’m totally not forced to buy a new phone. I’ll just fast charge my way through the world.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 months ago
30 min? LMAO.
romp_2_door@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The money is in the software services nowadays anyway. Subscription AI bullshit, cloud n stuff.