Comment on How does employing a rapist not constitute an unsafe work environment for female employees?

Aurolei@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Agreeing with OP is the same as saying you don’t believe people can change or get better.

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  • jaek@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, it isn’t. You can fully believe in people’s ability to rehabilitate and change, while also being aware that not everyone rehabilitates and changes.

    The needs of the perpetrator of a crime need to be balanced against the needs of society at large. This is why you get your license taken away from you when you drink and drive, or why you end up on a sex offenders register.

    In this case, there’s a valid argument to be made that this person represents a danger to society, and the need to protect/inform people from him outweighs his needs.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you can get a psychologist to sign off on him having uncontrollable urges then yeah. Otherwise he needs the same chances as every other ex felon.

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    • derf82@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So what is this guy supposed to do to support himself?

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      • Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Obvious. More crime.

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      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can feed and house them, of couse.

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    • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can fully believe in people’s ability to rehabilitate and change, while also being aware that not everyone rehabilitates and changes. (…) In this case, there’s a valid argument to be made that this person represents a danger to society

      What is that valid argument? OP said that indicates an ongoing danger, and if they’re an ongoing danger, what do we do in response to that beyond not covering up their crimes (which are already reported on the sex offender registry)?

      The law is far from perfect, but it’s hard to overstate the danger of basing the rule of law on vibes - which you appear to be doing.

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  • BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then why do jobs do criminal background checks?

    A business won’t hire a thief to handle money for fear of stealing from the business.

    But the business will hire a rapist because a company can’t be raped, and it doesn’t care about its employees’ safety.

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    • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The same reason a lot of jobs drug test- insurance requirements

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      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Now ask yourself why those insurance requirements exist

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    • Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good point. Companies willfully hire murderers because you can’t murder a company.

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• Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is why I am so glad I abandoned Reddit.

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  • MataVatnik@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Preach, there was a video of a woman on the front page of Reddit, obviously intoxicated and clearly of her mind, and she kept yelling the n word. All while she was getting assaulted. She mentally was clearly not there but all the top comments were most vile things I’ve read.

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