Comment on Mozilla’s new service tries to wipe your data off the web

Rodeo@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can also see the irony. But I can’t imagine another way to do it at any scale. Do you know of any other way?

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  • Static_Rocket@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Something akin to haveibeenpwned.com password hash partial match? Can that even be done with this data?

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    • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No. If your name is Dave Jones they have to look around those broker sites for Dave Jones. If those sites were using hashes then they could use hashes too.

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      • Peer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They could just look for names, then hash those names and compare them to your hashed name. So technically that don’t need to store your data, just hashes.

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    • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The front page there is literally: “Give us your email, so we can find leaks of your email.” It’s exactly the same thing.

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      • Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They are talking about the password lookup: haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords

        But, it’s the same deal. You have to trust they are actually doing what they say. Mozilla uses haveibeenpwned for their basic Monitor service too.

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    • admiralteal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, because you are asking the data broker to do something with your data that they possess. It is not possible for them to delete your data without knowing which are your data.

      The only alternative is fully banning this kind of data collection. Which would be nice, but isn't happening anytime soon.

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• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unless you trust Mozilla. I’m unaware of another organization that is more trustworthy, despite the haters mad that CEOs make money.

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• Neato@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Likely you must provide Mozilla with basic identifying data like name and birth date. Which isn’t all that radical since you’re giving them quite a bit more by paying them.

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• AeonFelis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s better when it’s in their hands, because:

  1. It’s Mozilla - one of the more trusty organizations out there.
  2. They don’t get your information in some sneaky way from some source that was never supposed to be available to them.
  3. You know exactly how they make money from your data.

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• Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s ironic yeah, but if trust is the only way to implement something like this, then Mozilla is probably the one company I would trust considering they’re a non-profit org.

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• JustUseMint@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  There isn’t a better company to do this than mozzila. I mean there literally are but in practice this is a good thing

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• pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The way I see it, if you’re asking for data removal, it’s because your identity is public online already, the company has nothing else to gain maybe other than the payment information and you can get a new card if they just happened to be untrustworthy.

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