I want to see the monarchy abolished but don’t wish him personally any great ill will. He’s more of a meddler in affairs of state than his mother and has been nonce-adjacent too many times for me to trust his judgement but this brings me no joy - too many friends getting cancer at the moment.
Comment on King Charles III diagnosed with cancer, Buckingham Palace says
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Is this good or bad news? I don’t know much about the UK, but I thought he was kinda unpopular.
Emperor@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 months ago
He's not hated, certainly not hated enough for people to wish he dies of cancer.
He's less popular than his mother, but that's mainly because people are simply ambivalent about him.
UID_Zero@infosec.pub 7 months ago
I can’t think of anyone I’d wish to die of cancer. I watched my father become a shell of a man while cancer took him, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Really, I wouldn’t wish anyone dead, but definitely not of cancer. What a horrible way to go.
Fuck cancer.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 months ago
He is only unpopular with the terminally online. At most, people are apathetic/don’t really have an opinion of him
jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Spoken like someone who isn’t one of his subjects.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 months ago
His coat of arms are on my passport lol
blackn1ght@feddit.uk 7 months ago
No, they’ve got it bang on.
Skua@kbin.social 7 months ago
He's unpopular with those of us that are against the monarchy as an institution rather than because of the man himself. If he dies that doesn't get rid of the institution, it just changes which rich prick currently has the job
smeg@feddit.uk 7 months ago
You can hate someone and what they stand for without wanting them to get cancer. Call me an old bleeding heart, but I don’t think it’s very healthy to wish death on anyone.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
When the system of government is literally based on succession through death, you kind of open yourself up to such questions.
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Yeah, that’s the problem here, right? If you wish him away, there is only one way.
anothermember@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
It’s not the only way, he could abdicate for one thing. There’s the possibility of democratic abolition of the monarchy (but if you go by opinion polls it doesn’t have enough public support at the moment).
smeg@feddit.uk 7 months ago
You can wish for the abolition of the monarchy (in a non-guillotine sort of way)
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 7 months ago
changing the system of government doesn’t require anyone’s death.
MrNesser@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No one wanted him to get cancer
iAmTheTot@kbin.social 7 months ago
Well, I wouldn't say "no one". There's always one.
theinspectorst@kbin.social 7 months ago
Imagine asking if it's good or bad news that an old man has cancer.
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Imagine not being able to ask if it’s good or bad news that a politician resigns. The fact that there is only one way for him to quit doesn’t mean you can’t be happy about him quitting.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 7 months ago
He can always abdicate. It’s been done before. But that wi have no effect on the constitution or shake of government
theinspectorst@kbin.social 7 months ago
Maybe turn on the human being bit of your brain. The guy has cancer.
GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 7 months ago
People on the whole don’t like the idea of that much wealth in one location, or the way that there are lots of loopholes and exemptions for them that commoners don’t receive.
However, the people inhabiting those positions vary in opinion.
The late queen was generally well regarded as a reasonably nice person.
And the current king is getting nods of approval for championing environmental issues, and the way that he’s been very open about his recent medical issues (which hopefully will drive more prostate-holders to get checked).
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Generally it’s considered bad when people have cancer.
The monarchy has no real power, and they’re no worse at wealth hoarding than any other billionaire, so it’s vaguely uncouth to be happy he has cancer.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“The Queen successfully lobbied the government to change a draft law in order to conceal her “embarrassing” private wealth from the public, according to documents discovered by the Guardian.
A series of government memos unearthed in the National Archives reveal that Elizabeth Windsor’s private lawyer put pressure on ministers to alter proposed legislation to prevent her shareholdings from being disclosed to the public.
Following the Queen’s intervention, the government inserted a clause into the law granting itself the power to exempt companies used by “heads of state” from new transparency measures.
The arrangement, which was concocted in the 1970s, was used in effect to create a state-backed shell corporation which is understood to have placed a veil of secrecy over the Queen’s private shareholdings and investments until at least 2011.”
theguardian.com/…/revealed-queen-lobbied-for-chan…
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Aight. I meant more like “the monarchy can’t order the military to detain people, or unilaterally pass decrees against the will of the people”.
Asking parliament to pass an abusive law isn’t the same type of abuse of power that would justify wanting a monarch to die in the short term in my view.
Charles is not Putin. I’m pretty firmly in the “overthrow the monarchy camp”, but that’s different from wanting an essentially harmless figurehead of an old man to have cancer.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Who wants him to have cancer? You said they have no real power, I showed that they do. Obviously they can’t have people thrown out of windows but that wasn’t the point I was making.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 7 months ago
So, 1 item, specifically connected to the monarchy in 70+ years.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That was the first result that popped up. There are more.
Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 months ago
Those with true power and wealth are rich and powerful enough to convince the world that they aren't that rich or powerful.
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Sure, death in itself is never a good thing. But since there is only one way for him to end his reign, you can’t really wish him away without wishing him harm.
EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 7 months ago
He can abdicate, he didn’t have to die to lose his title.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Well, if the Brits voted to not have a monarchy, they could just kick him out.
I don’t think the British monarchs in the current day need to be removed from office the way the French did it.