Man, I can say sometimes you’re right. But I have an open position on my team, I’ve received over 100 applications and something like 85% of them have no relevant experience. Do you actually expect me to try and talk to all of them? I do what I can and interview who I think fits best. It’s not perfect science but I have to work with what I have.
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Gork@lemm.ee 9 months ago
For companies to say that they can’t find workers, it’s curious to see why so many don’t even give you the time of day.
Lizardking13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Perfide@reddthat.com 9 months ago
I mean, a bog standard rejection email at least would be nice. Being entirely ghosted sucks, at least with a rejection I know not to keep thinking about that job.
echindod@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah. Standard rejection emails are good. I have gotten some really nice rejection emails. I haven’t dwelt on them long enough to know what sets them apart.
I have gotten a couple of rejections and thought: huh, I forgot I applied there. I have been wanting to do a diagram like this for my current job hunt, but I think I am getting a higher percentage of rejections than OP.
jsalvador@programming.dev 9 months ago
Hello fellow candidate, we’re moving forward with other candidate, thanks for your time, regards.
That’s all what I need, tbh.
Lizardking13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I agree with you. If I interview someone, I make it a point to get back with news(good or bad) asap. I don’t sit on it. I give the information to my recruiter and ask the recruiter to get on top of a response.
I don’t know if we respond to candidates that don’t get interviews. I can recommend it. I’m sure our recruiting software can do it.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I think it’s hr people justifying their existence by doing “market research” when there’s no actual open position
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because unemployment is 3.7%. Tech sits around 2%. This person’s experience isn’t representative of most tech workers experiences, at least in the US.
jsalvador@programming.dev 9 months ago
As I said, this is my experience in Spain, not US.
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t think that original comment I replied to was about Spain in general. They are just sarcastically parroting the line from mostly us based companies.
jsalvador@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah. Today I read an article saying last year there was a huge increment of layoffs on IT, and “75% of companies can’t find what they are looking for”, so I guess they’re looking for slaves. Or someone who can read the job application emails.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
They only want senior developers (and probably for the price of junior developers).
jsalvador@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yes. Today I had the last interview (before accepting the current one), and they offered me less money, for a job position where they require +4 years of experience. Well, I’m almost there, but the top salary they want to pay is just high for a junior…
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 9 months ago
Especially larger companies are sometimes structurally unable to effectively hire people.
I’ve been involved in the hiring process of a large company (>100k people at the time). The process goes something like this. The team lead needs a Java dev, announces that to the department head. DH whips out the standard dev requirements, these include some technologies that the department doesn’t use anymore, and some the department may would like to use in the future.
That shebang goes to HR. They fluff everything up, add some aspirational stuff, like AI, so they sound more interesting.
Obviously, nobody fits the bill, HR will throw out anyone who doesn’t confuse them enough with lies or jargon.
And even if you do get through, internal politics might get you. We had a pretty good candidate once, who was highly competent and had experience in teaching and training junior devs. He interviewed with two teams. My team gave him good grades, but we suggested that the other teams, full of fresh graduates, might profit more from his teaching experience. That was turned into “they don’t want him”, even though we explicitly said, he’s a good hire. He didn’t get the job. Absolute shame.
wewbull@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Most companies structure layoffs so that they retain as many high skilled workers as possible. That means that in times like these the market is awash in underperforming candidates. Finding good hires can be even harder than normal.
jsalvador@programming.dev 9 months ago
Makes sense.