I've been using Thunderbird since forever. It's not perfect but I like it better than bloated and laggy Outlook.
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IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 5 months ago
No shit. There’s a reason they are killing the nice and simple Windows Mail app; it allows you to sync with your email without Microsoft servers between.
Also, the biggest issue for me is the UX. I use outlook for my work email and like to separate my work and personal life, so soon I just won’t have an app for my personal email on my PC.
If anyone knows of a similar windows mail app with good touch support and without such a traditional mouse designed UI, please share it.
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 5 months ago
dgriffith@aussie.zone 5 months ago
I thought Thunderbird was getting increasingly shitty and slower/clunky, until I realised it was actually my ISP’s mail server getting increasingly shit. This became immediately obvious the day that emails started taking 12-18 hours to land in my inbox. Reallllll handy for those time limited account reset emails.
Transferred my IMAP inbox to my own domain, everything is now awesome again.
IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 5 months ago
But better for touch and simpler than windows mail?
I am only using Outlook for work email.
derin@lemmy.beru.co 5 months ago
I’ve been paying for mailspring for a few years now, and I love it. It has touch and gesture support, is open source, and is available on Windows, MacOS, and Linux.
Its paid plan includes some nice features like email tracking - which you can’t really get from just a simple client and (needs a server to track who has opened an email and when) - and id lookup, for things like quickly seeing the LinkedIn profile of a sender not in your contacts list.
Definitely my favorite desktop client by a wide margin, and one I would recommend wholeheartedly.
TurboLag@lemmings.world 5 months ago
Is it a local-only client, or does it download email on their cloud servers first?
derin@lemmy.beru.co 5 months ago
Local only.
Even if you pay for their subscription, when you get to a new computer you need to manually authenticate with each service. But, it remembers which accounts you have, so it’s faster than manually setting up each account from scratch. Basically “we know you have Gmail, xmail, ymail - tap each account to reauthenticate”
It’s a good way to have (part of) the convenience of a cloud service, while combining it with the security of local only clients.
hellequin67@lemm.ee 5 months ago
What especially galled me was as I was updating my laptop before flashing to Linux the new outlook will not work unless edge installed, I had just uninstalled that pile of garbage.
Ah well, at least pop_os works great 😃
Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I really liked the mail app, the outlook one sucks
Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 5 months ago
As a guy who runs Windows 10 LTSC on one of the machine, yeah I agree it do suck ass
Not only it’s UI design doesn’t fit at all with overall Windows 10 UI design, it also runs significantly slower than the old Windows Mail app
And in the typical Microsoft fashion, they’ll shoved that garbage into everyone’s throat despite nobody ever asked for it
Fuck that
acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 months ago
If you’re still using Windows 11, they’re still collecting your data. Sure, no need to give them more, but maybe that’s the push you need to move elsewhere. There are really good options.
IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 5 months ago
I’m waiting for Microsoft to bring back the option to move the taskbar to the side of the screen before upgrading to windows 11 from 10.
I may switch to Linux if IT forces the update and I can’t stop it.
madelena@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Wino Mail has a pretty good UI similar to the Mail app. You can find it in the Store.
Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 5 months ago
I don’t know any of the alternatives that have similar UI to the Windows Mail app
But it is possible to get back the old Windows Mail app by obtaining the dumped package file for the app (either by looking for it online or leeching it from the official Microsoft Store website using store.adguard.ru) and then install it using Powershell
At least that’s what I do with one of my systems running Windows 10 LTSC, since that version of Windows doesn’t came with MS Store or Windows Mail pre-installed
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
The new thunderbird UI looked neat and modern.
bob_lemon@feddit.de 5 months ago
They’re still working out some kinks, but yes, the new UI of Thunderbird 115+ is pretty good.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thunderbird has a new UI?
I’m on 115 and i dont notice anything different from how its always been… (This isnt some joke, or insult, or anything. I genuinely don’t notice anything different?)
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 months ago
If you update from a previous version then it configures itself to be similar to the old UI. If you do a clean install it looks very different.
IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 5 months ago
Isn’t that more of a replacement for Outlook? It doesn’t look designed around touch like the windows mail app.