There are some, let’s say fringe, political beliefs on some of the instances. I’ve just learned to keep out of their spaces and the arguments are easy to avoid.
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dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
As someone who holds some opinions which don’t directly fit into the mainstream on Lemmy, I actually feel like people have been more aggressive to me when I share my opinion here when compared to Reddit. I will admit, I think I was also too aggressive in some of my interactions due to this unfortunately.
It’s tough because I hate Reddit for ideological reasons, and have been hoping for a viable alternative for a while, but now that it’s here I feel like it might just not be for me.
Hopefully as it grows it will become better in this regard.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 11 months ago
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There are some IMO extreme political beliefs which seem to be considered valid on mainstream instances and communities.
I’ve seen, multiple times, people openly supporting terrorism as a solution to oppression/occupation on Lemmy since I joined.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 11 months ago
I mean TBF when you look at history terrorism seems to work decently enough.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I wanna see you say that to my face or to the face of anyone else who is or knows a victim of terror.
Fucking wild take
evlogii@lemm.ee 11 months ago
As someone who shares your desire for a better alternative, I find it disheartening to witness aggression. Although my experience with Lemmy was similar to Reddit (perhaps it’s just a matter of how I express myself or the communities I engage with), I genuinely hope you can also find comfort in Lemmy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What kind of opinions?
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’m not sure how to answer that honestly
BraBraBra@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As in what opinions are causing arguments.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 11 months ago
Found the problem, folks.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This is exactly what I’m talking about - I’m not Christian, I think Christianity is extremely bad (hell, one of my only two posts is a song by Greek Black Metal band Rotting Christ).
People just assume the worst if they don’t agree slightly with your opinion.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I understood the question, but you can just look at my comment history of you’re curious.
I’m not gonna list all my controversial opinions in a comment, and I also don’t necessarily know which ones are considered controversial on Lemmy before I share them.
Historical_General@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well the basic rule of persuation is to state what you agree with already, I assume an arguement can be productive and civil if you follow a similar pattern. State your points of agreement, then the diagreement.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I don’t try to argue though, usually.
I just share my opinion and people start arguing with me.
Historical_General@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well, if you’re replying to somebody then they’re going to understandably assume it’s directed at their opinion, especially if you didn’t simply post a comment on a post and replied instead.
Otherwise if your opinion is part of a current contentious political debate, then it will attract arguement and the best you can do is assume it’s in good faith and try to counter the fundamental point they’re making - if you’re inclined to.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I agree with you, my point is that many other people don’t, and instead get very aggressive and resort to name calling or petty insults.
And I won’t lie, I’m not perfect and this sometimes happens to me, but never when someone is actually arguing in good faith, only as a response to someone already doing that or if their opinion is extreme (for example if they advocate racist ideas).
Robaque@feddit.it 11 months ago
This is a very leftist online space. And proudly so. And it’s not like there’s a lack of disagreement among leftists. But any vagueries about having “controversial” opinions is gonna come across as fascist dogwhistling or at best liberal snobbery.
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you truly want a “leftist” online space lacking disagreement, you’re just asking to be put in an echo chamber. Differing opinions are important and should be encouraged - hell this is one of the core principals of democracy.
The only opinions I don’t respect are those advocating violence or violating basic human rights.
I hate fascism and I honestly don’t know what liberal means in this context since “leftists” seem to use it as a catchall term often.
Robaque@feddit.it 11 months ago
Lol the fact that you think leftism is small and unified enough to be at risk of becoming an “echo chamber” shows just how little you know about leftism.
Put really succinctly, liberalism means capitalists who think that capitalism is a “free”, “democratic” and “equal” system. Some liberals think its flaws can be ironed out with regulation and reform.
Leftists aren’t just socially progressive. They’re also anti-capitalist. And no amount of “debating” is gonna change that.
Btw
You sound a lot like musk lol. But least you unambiguously stated you hate fascism, even though I’m not really sure what you would even define as ‘fascism’…
dsemy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sorry I misread your comment, I thought you said leftists lack disagreement, while also claiming it’s a good thing. I don’t think leftism is small and unified (that’s why I put it in quotes in my comment, since I assumed you actually meant a small subsection of leftists).
Also, while I honestly despise Musk, if he truly believes that (I doubt it), then I agree with him.
I probably define fascism the same as you, no need to be passive aggressive.