“Can you hold up 7 fingers in front of the camera?”
Photo with one hand up
Comment on Well, it looks like verification photos might be useless now.
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Isn’t there a trick where you can ask someone to do a specific hand gesture to get photos verified. That’ll still work especially because AI makes fingers look wonky
IgnatiusJReilly@lemmy.wtf 8 months ago
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Show us a picture of your hands with the fingers made out of penises
independantiste@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Some AI models have already nailed the fingers, this won’t do anything. We need something that we can verify without having to trust the other person. I hate to say it but the block chain might be one of the best ways to authenticate users to avoid bots
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Block chains have no inherent capability to perform user authentication.
cadekat@pawb.social 8 months ago
Blockchains aren’t exactly the best at proof of personhood. Usually all they can do is make masquerading as multiple people (a Sybil Attack) more expensive.
That’s not to say interesting approaches haven’t come out of blockchain-adjacent work, like passport.gitcoin.co.
fidodo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How would the blockchain help?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Well once we’ve verified the person on blockchain… oh wait.
fidodo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
AI has been able to do fingers for months now. It’s moving very rapidly so it’s hard to keep up. It doesn’t do them perfectly 100% of the time, but that doesn’t matter since you can just regenerate it until it gets it right.
YoorWeb@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“For your verification please close left eye and run two fingers through your hair while eating a cauliflower with whipped cream. Attach a paperclip to your left ear and write your username on your forehead using with an orange marker.”
sukhmel@programming.dev 8 months ago
And then if the user had done everything requested then the photo is generated, because nobody would do that all in their sane mind 😂
YoorWeb@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Exactly! If you reply “Fuck you”, they know you’re a human.
vrts@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How to eradicate your userbase…
Paradachshund@lemmy.today 8 months ago
You could probably just set up a time for the person to send a photo, and then give them a keyword to write on the paper, and they must send it within a very short time. Combine that with a weird gesture and it’s going to be hard to get a convincing AI replica. Add another layer of difficulty and require photos from multiple angles doing the same things.
Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Lornas can be supplied to the AI. These are data sets of specific ideas like certain hand gestures, lighting levels, whatever style you need you can fine-tune the general data set with lornas.
I have the minimum requirements to produce art and HQ output takes 2 minutes. Low-quality only takes seconds. I can fine-tune my art on a LQ level, then use the AI to upscale it back to HQ. This is me being desperate, too, using only local software and my own hardware.
Do this through a service or a gpu farm and you can spit it out much quicker. The services I’ve used are easy to figure out and do great work for free* in a lot of cases.
I think these suggestions will certainly be barriers and I can think of some more stop-gaps, but they won’t stop everyone from slipping through the cracks especially as passionate individuals hyper-focus on technology we think in passing continue working on it.
fidodo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Simpler thing is to just have the user take a video. I’ve already seen that in practice.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
With a shoe on their head and a sharpie up there ass.
ExperimentalGuy@programming.dev 8 months ago
I feel like there’s a way to get around that… Like if you really wanted, some sort of system to Photoshop the keyword onto the piece of paper. This would allow you to generate the image but also not have to worry ab the AI generating that.
Unkn8wn69@monero.town 8 months ago
Just write on paper and overlay via Photoshop. Photopea has a literal one button click function for that very easy to do. Just blank paper and picture with enough light. Very easy
psud@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And it’ll get better if loads of verification posts are doing hand signs