Comment on Tesla is banned from driving schools because of new turn signals
arc@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The new Tesla Model 3 should be banned from the whole of Europe until they put the indicator stalk back. It is virtually impossible to safely and legally traverse a roundabout without it.
When I drive roundabouts I keep my hands on the wheel in the same spots so in relation to my thumb, the turn signals are in the same spot?
I think if the wheel wasn’t a yoke shape, it’d be different because I might just put one hand on top, but in this case it works OK.
Since the yoke forces you to keep your hands on the same place relative to the button, presuming you’re keeping your hands on the wheel
Give it another few years and I think all Teslas will use the new steer by wire in the CT and the problem will go away anyway.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
How do people indicate without it? Is the car supposed to automatically turn it on once it senses you leaving the lane?
arc@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It has little buttons on the wheel for left or right instead of a stalk. Problem is when you’re going through a roundabout you’re twirling the wheel around so it is almost impossible to to know where the wheel is at any given point in time. A stalk stays put, the buttons are anywhere depending on where the wheel is at. I think this video demonstrates it most clearly - www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBFxbKTEWu8
Trollception@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Do you fully rotate the Tesla wheel though? I know with electronic steering racks it’s possible to control the car like an F1 is driven so you never need to go hand over hand to make a turn. The steering is speed sensitive and at higher speeds the wheel is less responsive. Lexus is introducing this in the US on a model. Does the Tesla not have the same?
arc@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The wheel in a Model 3 has a typical steering wheel motion 1 1/2 rotations or whatever either way - you have no idea where the buttons will be at any given moment especially on a roundabout where you could be rolling right, rolling left and having to signal at the same time. Even if it were steer by wire and yoke like, the buttons are still moving around. So drivers have no chance of indicating safely or as the law requires. Basically all of this nonsense so Tesla can cheap out on a stalk which is probably a $10 part.
Which is why I think they should be banned or recalled in Europe.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In the article it says they replaced it with force touch buttons but the driving instructors all found the buttons to be disorientating and dangerous on roundabouts whilst trying to turn the wheel. The stalk makes for a mich more fluid and less distracting method.
Tesla believe that no turn signals will be needed once they perfect self deiving cars (likely never…)
jasondj@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
What the fuck is the point of an indicator after you’d already started the action. That light ain’t indicating any more about the driver than the fact that they bought a Tesla, and you can’t judge the driver too much for that without knowing what year it is.