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• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Now you’re just being wilfully obtuse.

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  • Zekas@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mate. The animal has to die for the product to get made. There’s such a thing as avoiding waste: You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can. Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted. There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal, ergo it is very much not vegetarian.

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    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The animal has to die for the product to get made

      The animal has already died to make another product. There’s no additional animals killed to make gelatin.

      There’s such a thing as avoiding waste

      Exactly. Using the extra parts to make gelatin rather than just throwing them away is avoiding waste.

      You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can

      Yes, that’s what I’m saying!

      Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted

      As opposed to killing any extra animals for gelatin. How the fuck can you keep disagreeing with the point you’re DESCRIBING in the affirmative??

      There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal

      You just described at length how no animal is killed for gelatin and as such using gelatin doesn’t involve any additional deaths versus NOT using gelatin. It’s not that difficult to understand…

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      • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        By your logic, do you consider ground meat to be vegetarian? Animals aren’t slaughtered specifically for ground meat, it’s made of the extras, off-cuts, and all the bits that typically won’t get eaten, in a very similar vein as how gelatin is made.

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      • Zekas@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well trolled. I don’t know why I bothered.

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