Comment on Substack says it will not remove or demonetize Nazi content

xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Dio@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hearing some one out and not changing your viewpoint after the conversation, doesn’t make you one of them. 🙄

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  • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thing is, we’ve heard out the nazis before. We don’t need to do that anymore.

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    • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly. It’s the paradox of tolerance.

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      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I like Michael Okuda’s take on this:

        The Paradox of Tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance, NOT as a moral standard, but as a social contract. If someone does not abide by the terms of the contract, they are not covered by it. In other words, the intolerant aren’t deserving of your tolerance.

        (twitter link)[twitter.com/MikeOkuda/status/1714662627954294813]

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are some things not worth listening to. Not all opinions are created equal.

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  • ZeroCool@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Zero tolerance for nazis. Zero.

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  • agent_flounder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed. However, providing a platform for hate speech is no different than condoning it.

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  • xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My viewpoint is that I dont have any obligation to “hear out” a nazi. And neither does anyone else. GTFO with this “even nazis should be given a fair shake” shit.

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    • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the terror group ISIL. you do not, under any circumstances, 'gotta hand it to them

      -Dril

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  • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But if upu hear them out and decide to allow them to promote their views on your website is passive endorsement.

    Or, to follow the metaphor: if you hear them out over entrees and you’re still sitting there during dessert, then you’re probably one of them.

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  • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, but thinking a Nazi has valuable information to offer is sus.

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  • SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Big difference between having a conversation and having a media company distributing propaganda.

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• topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Out of curiosity, let’s say a man needs a place for sleep, and for get one, he decides to help out a nazi, for example by fixing their long distance radio, would you call this person a nazi,@xkforce@lemmy.world ?

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  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why couldn’t the man go to a homeless shelter, or a church, or a bus stop, or a park bench, or literally anywhere other than a Nazi’s house? Also, what does a Nazi need a long distance radio for? Maybe by fixing it and not asking questions he’s helping them coordinate with other fascists to hurt and kill people. Is that worth a place to sleep for a night? Is it worth a few bucks if you’re not homeless but actually a wealthy business owner who can do as they please?

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    • topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why couldn’t the man go to a homeless shelter, or a church, or a bus stop, or a park bench, or literally anywhere other than a Nazi’s house? No homeless shelter, church, or a bus stop, park bench wasn’t a possibility, as there was german patrols watching the town. Also, what does a Nazi need a long distance radio for? For hear the news from Germany. Long distance radio was quite popular in the 40s. You could hear radios from the other side of a continent with those. Is that worth a place to sleep for a night? If it prevents you to get arrested by the Nazis, and questioned, I would say yes.

      The man I mention in my post is this guy As he was visiting the french riviera gathering intels for the british intelligence, he got in the situation I described in my previous post.

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      • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Did you bring him up because you believe Hamish MacKenzie is doing some kind of anti-Nazi spy operations nobody else knows about? Because the contexts here are so different that they’re only tangentially related.

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      • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The very occasional exception to the saying doesn’t make the saying less applicable in this particular situation.

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  • xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A lot of people died rather than help them so yes I would judge the shit out of someone that helps them knowing full well what they are.

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    • topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The person I mention in my previous post, is this man. As he was along the french riviera, looking for intels, he ended in this situation, that there was no vacancy in hotels, and he finally got a hotel room, by fixing the long distance radio. How do you judge the shit out of him, by curiosity ?

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  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nazis don’t deserve help. They fundamentally are antisocial in their ideology. By helping them, you aid a Nazi. Why would you willingly help a Nazi?

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  • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who the fuck feels safe sleeping among Nazis? That’s a good way to get robbed.

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