If they want to hang out with us, they can make an account somewhere other than thread, bam, done!
aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.
I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.
snek@lemmy.world 9 months ago
woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If they want to hang out with us, they can make an account somewhere other than thread, bam, done!
“make another account somewhere” isn’t really what federation is about.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Indeed it is, they’re not saying you have to make an account on that person’s server, they’re saying that you can make it on a different server, that’s the point of federation you can join other servers that are connected to them. It’s not to be fully open without any limitations, because if it were then content moderation would be impossible.
Services like Nostr have this problem, they are like the wild West where anything goes and you can’t do anything about it. To some people that seems great but the fact of the matter is those services are filled with right-wing trolls and crypto scammers (likely plenty of other nasty stuff as well) because they cannot be moderated.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Mastodon, Kbin, the new Lemmy 0.19 release allow on a per user basis to block entire domains, so I don’t see how this is a “you can’t do anything about it” situation. Just let users decide.
Corgana@startrek.website 9 months ago
What do you think it’s about? Because from my perspective changing instances is kind of the entire defining feature that separates it from commercial platforms.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s about connecting communities and having fail saves, not bullying.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Federation is about being able to communicate with other people even if they use a different platform.
agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I feel like that’s exactly how it was billed to me, find somewhere that federates with who you want, and if that changes, you’re free to move
woelkchen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The choice of email providers is not about which one can exchange mails with GMail.
ponik@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Excuse me sir, i cant be more agree with you
aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
me too ^_^
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Please explain how federating with Threads is “supporting Meta” and not the opposite.
aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I’m not sure if federating will help meta so much as it will definitely (most probably) hurt the lemmy/mastodon network.
Here’s a similar case that happened before, with the XMPP protocol being coopted by google but eventually killing it in favor of their own proprietary solution:
ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…
Big tech isn’t on our side, and we have to handle outside corporate influence with heavy skepticism.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
XMPP still exists and doesn’t have any fewer users than before Google adopted it.
guriinii@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Israel have been successfully pressuring meta to remove and shadow ban accounts sympathetic to Palestinians. The level of censorship is crazy.
raoulraoul@lemmy.world 9 months ago
OK, I’ll bite. You got something more substantial than “I read it on the internet” to back that up? One reputable source on your accusation? Not sayin’ you’re lying/wrong, just asking for some verifiable proof.
SulaymanF@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Numerous actual popular accounts and news sources have been suspended. It was major news in the Arabic-speaking world in October. Meta even apologized for auto-translating Palestinian as “terrorist.”
Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Hate to say it but that’s a fail on producing a reliable source.
guriinii@lemmy.world 9 months ago
At the moment this is coming from secondary sources from within meta so there are no articles about it that I’m aware of. But Palestinians and activists constantly have their content removed, account reach limited, and comments removed (which has happened to me multiple times). People also have their accounts threatened and removed.
These actions are visible constantly, meta have been doing this since the start. For example, when you go to someone’s stories at the top it might show 4 or 5 stories, but when you click through to their profile there’ll be 20+.
Some people I follow don’t even show up at the top anymore and I have to access their stories via their profile page or if I’ve messaged them recently.
raoulraoul@lemmy.world 9 months ago
After (as of this reply) eight hours, you have produced nothing more than anecdotal evidence if not outright invented. I must assume at this point you are spreading disinformation for whatever your goals may be to that end.
Thank you for wasting everybody’s time.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Well a good friend of my girlfriend is from Palestine. He has been posting translations from his sister’s account of what it is actually like living there right now. Then some AI artwork behind stories of “this place was bombed, my friends just were killed, etc…” and he got a big notification on Instagram that “his account has been restricted for violent hate speech” even though he didn’t insight violence even one time. He just has posts with 2nd person stories of the situation there.
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What are you some conspiracy nut? /s
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
And thus is the problem with charging tech oligopolies with being the arbiters of truth: sometimes they disagree with you, but whatever they believe is “the truth”, because they make it so.