👆 your average apple user, oblivious to the world around them
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gregorum@lemm.ee 6 months agooh, can’t android users receive high-quality videos and photos? after 16 years of smartphones, you’d think they’d have that figured out…
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
gregorum@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Newsflash: and android isnt “the world”, and if you think it is, then maybe I’m not the one who’s so oblivious
Vilian@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
android is 70% of the world, so stop acting like only USA exist
gregorum@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I wasn’t the one who brought up the world or USA, or who even made this a competition
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Reading comprehension doesn’t appear to be your strong suit.
gregorum@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Don’t blame me for your sense of self importance, lol
Mountaineer@aussie.zone 6 months ago
It’s not the android side that’s failing, it’s Apples refusal to implement anything other than SMS for cross ecosystem compatibility.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s also why third party messaging apps like Whatsapp are thriving, much to the consternation of every person on the network. I used to be able to pick up the phone and call or message anyone. Now I need to check compatibility first. Wtf apple.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Even worse, I can send high quality images and video from android to iPhone if they’re both on Verizon. When the iPhone sends it back, it’s trashed.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 months ago
iOS can’t send hi quality videos or images over SMS. It’s a choice made by Apple.
I can send large videos (more than 50mb, for sure) over SMS from my Android phone on Verizon to a Verizon iPhone. They receive it in same quality. When they send it back, the iPhone butchers it.
Verizon, unlike other carriers, doesn’t seem to have an MMS size limit.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Android to Android, sure.
But Apple and Google refuse to play nicely with each other, so Android to Iphone or Iphone to Android both suck.
It’s not a lack of capability, it’s the refusal to implement it to try and force users to pick a side.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 months ago
But Apple and Google refuse to play nicely with each other, so Android to Iphone or Iphone to Android both suck.
Yeah this is a gross mischaracterization of the situation.
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Google is more than happy to “play nicely” with Apple. Apple is the one holding out.
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They totally do “play nicely” on literally every messenger app in existence except iMessage, which is the only SMS app you’re allowed to use on iOS. This is not any sort of hardware or software limitation, this is purely greed from Apple to control their users and create a walled garden.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I don’t really care which of them is responsible for it not working decently, that’s why I didn’t point the finger at one in particular.
Point is, it’s between these two companies to agree on a solution that works for both of them and actually implement it. Yet after all this time, they still haven’t to the detriment of consumers globally.
I’ll believe the IOS RCS implementation when it’s actually released. Promises from corporations are worthless.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 months ago
that’s why I didn’t point the finger at one in particular.
No you pointed the finger at both of them, which is why I corrected you.
Point is, it’s between these two companies to agree on a solution that works for both of them and actually implement it.
Point is you can’t have an agreement when the other party won’t even entertain a conversation, nor do they want to come to an agreement.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 months ago
To be fair, Google’s messaging plans and implementations have been all over the place for a decade. Apple still should have been more proactive. They promised iMessage would come to Android until they realized how much of a moat it became for their business.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 months ago
Apple has no obligation to use any of Google’s or Google’s preferred communication standards. They can open up the iMessage protocol or they can use literally any other open standards (like Signal’s).
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SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Google chat, or whatever they call it now, fixed that.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
If you’re talking about RCS, androids newer native messaging system, no apple has not implemented that yet.
There has always been dozens of messaging apps users can use, including Google Chat, but they are all seprate apps that both you and the recipient have to choose to install and use. That’s the main problem.
The goal is to have the native messaging apps on both platforms be able to speak to each other with the same quality right out of the box, just as they can within the same platform right now (apple to apple, and android to android).
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
You need to think of iMessage as Google messages, Whatsapp, telegram, signal, etc. Except this is only installed on iPhones and they want everyone to know it. It’s arrogant and stupid. The app could just be released for Android and it would be no different than the others I mentioned.
bratosch@lemm.ee 6 months ago
That is not the issue. At all. Lol
creed10@lemmy.world 6 months ago
you can when it’s android to android. as soon as an iphone is in play, the iphone immediately decreases the quality, even though the MMS standard allows for attachments up to 100MB in size
sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social 6 months ago
Android uses RCS now, a higher quality and more feature rich standard than SMS. However… Apple hasn’t added it to iOS, so it doesn’t work to send to iPhones and they receive bog-standard SMS from Android devices.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 months ago
iOS can’t send hi quality videos or images over SMS. It’s a choice made by Apple.
I can send large videos (more than 50mb, for sure) over SMS from my Android phone on Verizon to a Verizon iPhone. They receive it in same quality. When they send it back, the iPhone butchers it.
Verizon, unlike other carriers, doesn’t seem to have an MMS size limit.
drislands@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re joking, right?
mcqtom@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah the whole reason Apple won’t allow it is because they expect you to conclude exactly this.