Only happens in Muricaland.
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Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Crazy to think this is just because of a different colored bubble
Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 1 year ago
Mereo@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Not just in 'Merica, also in Canada eh.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Crazy to think people actually believe this has anything at all to do with bubble colors.
the_q@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Doesn’t it have to do with Apple’s inability to play ball with Google and use a more universally accepted and accessible messaging protocol?
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
When people don’t know how things work, and can only associate bubble color with bad images, video, and group messaging issues, then bubble color is meaningful.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 year ago
No it’s not
RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It has become for teens. It’s like wearing the right brand. To then, if you’re a green bubble, shame on you.
Of course it originates from the degraded experience, but at the moment, it all came down to the color of the bubble without taking into consideration the features/experience.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
To those people it definitely is. And to Apple as well.
littlewonder@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Counterpoint: teenagers.
DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 1 year ago
People are fucking stupid.
Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Total time spent between all of the discussion, hand-wringing, programming, and reporting, this has got to be be pretty high on the list of colossal time-wasters.
Water1053@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not the color of the bubble. It’s the downgraded chat experience: grainy pictures, pixelated videos, and no E2EE.
Our kid was at a sleepover, recently. We got a video of all the kids playing together, but because it wasn’t iPhone to iPhone the video was a low resolution pixelated mess.
themoken@startrek.website 1 year ago
Yeah, my sister-in-law has an iPhone and all of my wife’s pics and videos turn to garbage in transit. For the longest my SIL just thought Android cameras were terrible and it locked her in to iPhones at upgrade time - which is exactly what Apple intended.
ripcord@kbin.social 1 year ago
That's the carrier requiring really rediculously small sizes for MMS.
If I remember correctly AT&T is still limiting videos to 2MB tops. Which is crazy.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
And Apple forcing shit quality on ALL MMS, even when the carrier allows higher quality/size.
iOS can’t send hi quality videos or images over SMS. It’s a choice made by Apple.
I can send large videos (more than 50mb, for sure) over SMS from my Android phone on Verizon to a Verizon iPhone. They receive it in same quality. When they send it back, the iPhone butchers it.
Verizon, unlike other carriers, doesn’t seem to have an MMS size limit.
What’s really frustrating is MMS is just a web server on the other end. Since the time of data connections (~2005) vendors could’ve easily made it so MMS on data-capable devices is transported to the web server over data rather than through the voice channel frames (which is what SMS and MMS do).
Though if you had a data-capable device back then, you had to get a data plan to send MMS, so apparently this is what they were doing. They just don’t want to upgrade the MMS hosting servers and have the extra traffic.
Salix@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
T-Mobile has a 1MB limit for MMS
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Because Apple decided all media over SMS should be sent in a shitty downgraded form.
This is all on Apple wanting to make iMessage look better than SMS, and Apple look better than everyone else (and to be fair, iMessage is the right approach to the SMS issue, just not as a walled-garden version).
iOS can’t send hi quality videos or images over SMS. It’s a choice made by Apple.
I can send large videos (more than 50mb, for sure) over SMS from my Android phone on Verizon to a Verizon iPhone. They receive it in same quality. When they send it back, the iPhone butchers it.
Verizon, unlike other carriers, doesn’t seem to have an MMS size limit.
So Apple and carriers are to blame for this.
bratosch@lemm.ee 1 year ago
So, it’s an issue of Apple intentionally withering down the quality if it’s not iPhone-iPhone, rather than “incompatibility”
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No… on some cell carriers, if your photo is larger than 300KB then it won’t be delivered.
When you send a “blue bubble” photo they are about 3MB.
bratosch@lemm.ee 1 year ago
… So it’s still an iPhone issue … Also, i really don’t know what this “blue bubble”/“green bubble” is referencing (other than it being chats)
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s still an iPhone issue of butchering quality when sending over MMS. Carriers are partly to blame, but even on Verizon which has no apparent MMS size limit, iPhones till butcher images.
See my other comments. I’ve tested this. It’s Apple making anything non-iMessage seem inferior. Not that they have to, but it makes people think iPhone is superior when it’s by design.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
It’s obvious they’re restricting the quality but it could be that they implemented the MMS handling in 2008, when other phones could only support 3gp and the carriers couldn’t handle high bandwidth. I’d bet they haven’t bothered to update it since, and do the absolute bare minimum to keep it compliant with the carriers.
bratosch@lemm.ee 1 year ago
With all the so-called innovation and their absurd price tags , you’d think they would’ve updated it in the last 15 years
LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Intentional ineptitude resulting from malice is still malice.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
My Treo on Verizon in 2006 could send 10mb videos.
Water1053@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. That’s exactly it
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 1 year ago
Well, obviously. It's just a protocol. Why wouldn't they be able to make it cross-platform if they wanted to?
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
If they’d sent a link instead of the video itself you’d have seen the whole thing though.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Which is more convenient?
And this is 2023, why shouldn’t I be able to just send a video straight to another person if they’re the only one seeing it?
I don’t support big grey making that decision for me
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
You’re missing my point, but it looks like you’re not the only one. Your friend should have sent it differently.
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The funny thing is MMS is effectively a link.
When you send an MMS, it’s uploaded to a server via http where a link is generated. Then the link is sent to the other phone, where the MMS service retrieves the file via that link. We just don’t see it happening.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, but iPhone people are pretty tough to convince.