Well regulated snake oil is still snake oil. Just cause a regulatory board says its relatively safe doesnt mean its actually effective. Chiropractory is no more effective than a good massage, and you know what if thats all they advertised it as then fine. But it aint theres a whole bunch of woo mixed into it.
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is a very north american opinion, which also happens to be very condescending in tone, while op explicitly dismiss commenters who disagree with them. The practices designated by the various terms, such as chiropractors, osteopath, physical therapists, etc. vary depending on the countries and contexts, especially in some european countries where chiropractors must answer to the same standards and regulations as the other medical professions. This should be taken into account.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
They run the risk of injuring their customers, with the way that they “manipulate” the neck and spine.
There are people who can generally help those with back issues or whatnot, they’re called doctors.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You can just get a good massage. They feel good and you are probably more likely dying driving back and forth from the place.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I literally said that in my comment. No better than a good massage, was meant to imply that its about as good if not worse than a good massage.
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s just not true, regulations imply healthcare reimbursement, which implies strict control on the treatment and the practicians, because insurance companies hate paying.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Osteopathy was originally pseudoscientific quackery, but has long abandoned the woo crap that was not supported by medical evidence. Osteopathic medicine today is grounded firmly and exclusively in actual science.
Physical therapy is, and always has been, medical science based therapy.
Chiropractic therapy is founded upon disproven theories and requires no actual medical training. The industry regulates its own certifications, and chiropractors are taught a perverted concept of physiology.
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 9 months ago
…from a north american perspective.
Those definitions are just not true in a lot of countries outside of the us.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Considering osteopathy was invented in the United States by an American, who was basically just making shit up, and all of the underlying theories and mechanisms of action have been thoroughly debunked, I’d say that a lie is a lie anywhere in the world, regardless of legal status.
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Psychoanalysis was invented almost at the same time in Vienna and a lot of freudian concepts have since been critiqued due to his biases. Does it mean Austria forever owns psychoanalysis and anything that could be discovered since? There is a difference between a field of research, a scientific discipline and a paradigm. Debunking a theory that was invented more than a century ago doesn’t disqualify every research done after that. Also, paradigm change often comes from opposing theories from the same field they oppose. If we did like that, there wouldn’t be a lot of research field left standing.
Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Physical Therapists should not be lumped into that group at all.
mvilain@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Actually, a DC goes to school for 4 years to learn what they do. A PT used to go for 4 years undergrad, then 2 years for the MS. Now you really can’t practice without a PhD. When a DC says they can do everything a PT can do plus Rx certain things, it really pisses PTs off. They work within the scope of a MD’s direction. DC don’t. Both use Phillip Greenman’s Principles of Manual Medicine in their training (an Osteopathic text).
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 9 months ago
in the us, again, it doesn’t happen like that in a lot of countries.