Comment on YSK that chiropractors are not medical doctors and "Systematic reviews... have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective"

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• chaogomu@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Strokes, but also broken necks.

  And some of these quacks do "adjustments" on children and infants.

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  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Saw that on episode of Bullshit with Penn and Teller. Anyone who would do that to a baby should be imprisoned for life.

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  • player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, the last time I went to a chiropractor for back pain, they also “corrected” my neck which in the past felt good but this time it just immediately pulled a muscle in my neck and left me in pain and barely able to turn my head for weeks.

    It’s better now, but I’ll never go back to a chiropractor again because of the risk of making things worse for essentially no benefit.

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  • BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also animals, I saw a video of someone doing it to a pit bull and after he cracked the dogs neck the pit gave him the “I’m going to rip your fucking throat out” look.

    It’s straight up animal abuse.

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• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/…/01.str.32.5.1054

  Thank your pointing this out. It’s not just any stroke too, it’s primarily vertebral/basilar artery distribution strokes. Those supply the brain stem which includes such necessary functions as control of breathing and consciousness. You don’t want a stroke anywhere, but particularly not there.

  Some chiropractors might swing back that, you’ve only showed correlation not causation. Well, when we have no clear evidence of chiropractic neck manipulation being helpful for anything, and we have a likely very dangerous correlation, the clinical parsimony is just not there. So no one is going to run that study (give a large amount of people neck manipulation, a large amount of people no neck manipulation, and compare rates of stroke that occur afterwards), it would be very unethical, no irb would ever approve that.

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  • deergon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This. My friend had a triple stroke shortly after having neck manipulation done by a standin for his usual chiropractor. Luckily he survived, but it has very much opened my eyes to how dangerous it can be.

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• Endorkend@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, I was coming in here to say similar.

  Chiropractors aren't just not effective, they are fucking dangerous.

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