Comment on Reactionaries have you used the same talking points to shun progress throughout history.

• Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  With all due respect, you’re literally replying to a post saying it’ll always be “This war is different, this war is justified” by emphasising how this war is different and this war is justified.

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  • admiralteal@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But that's not what is happening.

    What is happening is directly pointing out that this was is NOT different. That this war is ALSO unjustified.

    In war, the aggressors are the problem. Period. And lending support to the aggressed is not the same as supporting war.

    It would work, simply letting Russia finish a genocide against Ukraine or Israel finish a genocide against Palestine. The conflict would certainly be resolved that way. But if you think it is an acceptable outcome, you value peace too highly.

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    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh, I agree. Personally I think the world has a duty to stop any country attempting to annex parts of any other country.

      I was just tickled by that exchange.

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      • PeleSpirit@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wasnt anything ticklish about the exchange, so kinda creepy that you were

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  • lolcatnip@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The war in Ukraine is not justified. Supporting Ukraine’s defense is.

    Don’t make the mistake of thinking the opponents of any particular military action are pacifists.

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    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I agree?!

      I’m honestly not sure what would make you think otherwise.

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      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The words you wrote, primarily

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  • PeleSpirit@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I should say what to Russia? I don’t understand.

      I agree that the world has a duty to stop any attempts a country might make to annex another country’s territory.

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  • Transcendant@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That war can end when Russia stops invading another country. Ukraine defending its citizens and territory is right and proper.

    Where are you from?

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• STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t that’s what he meant. He meant that many Russian soldiers are brainwashed by propaganda as well.

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• avrachan@lemmings.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Back when iraq was invaded, Saddam was the aggressor who bad WMD, it all turned out to be a lie.

  How do you know that American government is telling it’s citizens complete facts about Ukraine war?

  Yes I know Russia is the aggressor here and I am completely against the invasion. However, everyone knew that NATO expansion will trigger a war and US actively pushed for it. American governments hands are not clean when it comes to Ukraine war and American citizens don’t question it at all.

  Which brings me to the cartoon here where if you say the above mentioned statements you will be called a tankie, Putin bootlicker etc.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    that NATO expansion will trigger a war

    It is none of Russia’s business which group Ukraine joins.

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    • avrachan@lemmings.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      of course you are right. because this is high school and not eastern Europe with a complex geopolitical history.

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      • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        iTs CoMpLiCaTeD

        No tankie, it’s very simple. Russia is an imperialist nation. Should’ve been given a foot up their ass when they annexed Crimea.

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  • teichflamme@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re not even comparing apples and oranges

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