Comment on We're all just in Stockholm Syndrome to whatever culture we were born into.

PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You sound white and privileged; try being a minority in a place where cops are racist/sexist and crime is high and see how fast you will change your mind.

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  • squaresinger@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you think pulling a gun against a cop will help you get home safely?

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    • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know how I know you're a white privileged kid that never grew up with any adversity? You never considered that cops will delay their response, if respond at all, to help you because of your skin color or income demographic.

      You went straight to the ignorant thought of a gun owner addressing cops with violence and not a criminal trying to rob you in front of your family.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You sound white and privileged and trying to shove pro-gun arguments into the mouths of minorities because you think that’s some kind of uno-reverse card to liberals.

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    • BaroqueInMind@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Non-sequitur. Do you have any argument to refute anything I said so as to help change my mind and make us both better people, or just continue to remain a useless loser your entire life and leave it at that?

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Hit the nail on the head, didn’t I? ;D

        Thanks for confirming.

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  • stevecole90099@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The asshat is clearly privileged, but don’t stoop to racism like them. Be the change you want in the world. The right to bear arms and defend yourself from criminals and tyranny alike is a right that every American should practice and cherish no matter what they look like. One day, we’ll get that dream even if we have to deal with a few nightmares first.

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• stevecole90099@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Guns aren’t safe. They aren’t supposed to be safe, or at least they aren’t supposed to be any safer than any other tool. They are a tool that is very specifically designed to grant their user an increased ability to injure a target with ease from a safe distance. This ability grants the user an increased ability to hunt, to defend themselves, to defend their property and family, and yes to harm or kill other people and predators.

  A hammer, a knife, a blunt object, and a car can all provide these same abilities with differing efficiency, but we still have them, too, even though they aren’t necessary. You don’t need to drive. Walk or take a bus. You don’t need a hammer to drive nails. Use a rock instead. Although there is a famous story about a guy named Cain, that makes a strong argument for getting rid of rocks, too. No one needs a baseball bat. Those are only used for recreation, so it should be easy to get rid of those dangerous weapons, right? I’m sure we can get rid of those dangerous knives, too. Our ancestors didn’t need them to survive, so I’m sure we can do without them to make the world a safer place.

  This is why we have a rule that none of these things can be used for that thing about killing other people under threat of harm or death unless it was done under pretty specific circumstances.

  You are statistically safer around a gun than you are around a ladder, but I’m guessing ladders aren’t on your list of things to rid the world of for some reason.

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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like how you ignore the fact you're statistically less safe if you own a gun.

    No need to change the subject to ladders.

    The point is whatever perceived safety you get from your human killing device is negated by having the device itself.

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    • stevecole90099@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t ignore it. It’s just a dumb statement for someone to make. You are statistically less safe if you own a toaster. You are statistically less safe if you own a coffee table.

      How many toes must be stubbed before we outlaw those tables and their dangerous and harmful legs! Think of the children!

      You are statistically less safe from a lot of stuff, but we keep them around because they have an important use.

      My gun isn’t going to break into my house and kill me for the 10$ in my wallet, but my cracked up neighbors might. I’ll take my chances with the gun.

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      • SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What a tool. What other purpose do guns have other than violence? All the other things you mentioned are used for other things. Guns are for killing, and nothing else.

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A toaster and ladder have constructive applications.

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh he didn’t ignore it, he gave you some enthusiastic whataboutism concerning ladders.

      I am in fact incredibly careful around ladders, fwiw. And power tools. But those things have constructive applications, where the gun is by its nature destructive.

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  • squaresinger@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No. Just no.

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    • stevecole90099@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe?

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      • squaresinger@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No. You know your argument is not appropriate. I don’t need to tell you that.

        You argueing that way, because you want your guns and have to find a moral excuse so that it doesn’t look like your only argument is “Boom Boom Manly Man Boom”.

        You are argueing in bad faith, so no need to engage in that argumentation.

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