Comment on Do guys that tip cam models hundreds of dollars week after week think that model actually likes them?

• ilinamorato@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re not at all part of the problem. The problem is entirely concentrated in the employers’ unwillingness to pay workers a living wage. It’s not like they’d start if you stopped tipping; they’d be legally required to backfill some of the shortfall, but not enough that the person could actually survive.

  Rest assured. You are not a part of the problem.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As someone who has done tipped labor before: the bigger problem is the entitlement of the people who come to expect tips and negatively judge anyone who doesn’t.

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    • 1847953620@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I one got shat on for saying I reduce my typical tip of 25%+ down to 15% for waiters who were particularly bad at interactions, in a thread where a bunch of waiters were patting themselves on the back for forcing bad-but-fast interactions that allowed them to give the appearance of service.

      Such as avoiding eye contact, ignoring gestures from a distance, and leaving a table fast to give them as little time as possible to put in follow-up requests, or waiting until someone’s mouth was full or with a glass up so they couldn’t elaborate, and some other stuff I don’t care to remember.

      I was called “shitty” for “witholding tips”.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s so sad, you weren’t even doing a “No tip” just a “reduced tip.” Like, isn’t that how tipping is supposed to work?

        I’ve faced it too, coworkers would tell me things like “we have a spray bottle with water so you can look like you’re sweating and working really hard and more likely to get tips.” Cool, because gaslighting people for money isn’t fraudulent or scammy at all??

        The entitlement is crazy. I remember literally arguing “it’s not their responsibility to cover the gaps in our pay that our employer refuses to cover” and them acting like I was crazy to expect our employer to pay us a living wage when we could be raking in cash from tips.

        Seriously, the tips were insane, but it wasn’t enough for these people. We could be getting enough in tips to be making $30+/hour each night, but apparently that’s not enough and entirely the responsibility of the people who come to our restaurant.

        Yeah, I’m pretty convinced that the worst tipping culture comes from the people who act like not getting a tip is fucking blaspheme that should be punished by God himself.

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I don’t enjoy restaurants. For travel only. Rather just cook it myself.

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  • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lots of jobs fully need a living wage and are for spare cash mainly. Your son delivering papers certainly doesn’t. I think we need to evaluate in that some.

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    • 1847953620@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “let’s continue to devalue labor because some margin cases might 😱 end up with disposable income derived from a more fair compensation for that value”

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      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh no some kid might be doing pretty well for a month or so better grind everyone into poverty so boomers like @zippy have it fair

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      • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There are a great number of jobs that pay a living wage. Working on a convenience store or Walmart does not need to be one.

        And a living wage does not mean you should be able to live alone with your own kitchen and bathroom without roommates. Something past generations certainly need to do. Those single member working families that were paid s high wages typically worked in a mine or a higher paid job. No one could work at the convenience store and support a family alone.

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    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your go to is delivering papers is telling. I will send you a fax about it later.

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      • Zippy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You do realize this is still a job and it still exists or is it not important enough for your to consider it one?

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• PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I do the same. It is one of the few things that really cheers me up sometimes.

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• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t necessarily do it with tips, because I don’t really know those people, but I have a similar situation. I make good money at work and am very lonely/isolated in my social life, so I don’t have a lot of places to spend my money. But around the holidays I like giving big expensive gifts to my family and the few other important people in my life. They always think it’s overboard in terms of what I spend but I just really like the feeling that my money is going to make someone happy since it doesn’t really do much for me. I make sure to remind them that I’m not keeping score and not expecting them to give me something of equal value. I just like the experience of gift-giving.

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