Please nerd out over here, I could bathe in vulgarization all day
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ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨11⊠â¨months⊠agoAs a woman with that level of enthusiasm about niche science info (I got a degree as a science communicator, because I literally canât help myself sharing interesting info when it seems a good time to do so)âŚ
Itâs very very difficult to find people who arenât intimidated by it, or put off by the enthusiasm about something they donât begin to understand/care about. Of all the people I talk to randomly, maybe 1 out of 30 people actually likes the enthusiasm past the first 5 min. And even that 5 min can be a stretch. That is to say, they tolerate it, they donât tend to engage with it or encourage it. Mostly you get âoh, thatâs neatâ. Which is a great way to shut the entire conversation down, cuz where do you go from there?
I tend to agree that enthusiasm is interpersonally attractive, itâs why I make small talk by asking what thing the other person finds interesting that they learned recently. (Not something they think I want to know, something they are interested in). I donât think the majority of the population views it that way, though. They only think enthusiasm is good if itâs a subject they already care about in some way. And they donât want to share theirs in case itâs not something you are interested in, even if all you actually are interested in is whatever sparks their passion.
I guess it could be my area, but Iâve been a lot of places (mostly within the same country ofc) and found about the same whether rural or urban, north or south. Also I donât think my observation is because Iâm a woman, but it could be a contributing factor, idk.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
Clearly so, as you taught me a new definition - vulgarization - the act or process of making something, or of something becoming, better known and understood by ordinary people.
I appreciate that. Thanks! :) in that definition (and the more traditionally used one) Iâm a vulgar mf!
Unless you want to know about like magnetic tornadoes on the sun or how sponges are colonies of cells often using glass/silicate compounds in various shapes as a common skeleton (wouldnât want to bathe with those!! But each species has their own unique structure!), I havenât much off the top of my head without a good conversation to spark some back-of-the brain latent info thatâs stored and conversationally relevant. Iâm a steel trap for niche science stuff, and it often takes a good conversation to bring it out. How else do you know what info is worth sharing?
^_^
Hadriscus@lemm.ee â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
Astronomy is one of my bigger interests, but I donât know about magnetic tornadoes on the sun. Is that a regular occurrence ? Is the naming a callback to regular tornadoes because they are similar in some way ?
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
They arenât uncommon persey, itâs just another form of solar prominance, or material lifted above the surface by magnetic field liness. However, the tornado-like appearance rather than a full arc of material that connects to the surface in 2 places is rather uncommon, and itâs even possible that itâs an artifact of the way the sun is photographed (the lenses filter based on temperature, essentially, and material further from the surface may cool to the point it doesnât get picked up with any of the filters, making it effectively invisible), or the angle at which the photos are taken in relation to the prominence (if we are looking at it head on, we wouldnât see the second anchor point).
How they form is an ongoing mystery with many models, like all solar prominences, and it probably isnât disconnected on one end like a cyclone would be, but visually it resembles a tornado, and the material does rotate around the magnetic field lines, much the same way a tornado rotates in air. We see the same rotation in more typical coronal loops, which are what cause coronal mass ejections when one end or the other releases. They are absolutely massive when they do form, 10+ stacked earths in size, and can last days, weeks, months.
Itâs one of my go-to water-testing facts because almost everyone likes the sun, is at least vaguely familiar with tornadoes, and can envision a â10 earth tall tornado of plasma on the sunâ. Which is a damned cool image to envision - the reality is also spectacular but a bit less so.
The one linked below is actually from March this year, which is neat! I didnât even know it happened again! This one was 14 earths high and exploded at the end of its cycle! How cool! I hope they got some really good data on how it works! Iâll have to do some looking :)
starman2112@sh.itjust.works â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
[deleted]ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
Iâll keep that in mind if Iâm ever your way :)
Because paradoxically, if you were actually the least interesting person, that would be pretty interesting.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works â¨11⊠â¨months⊠ago
Well, as much as I hate to say it, most people are so busy looking for their turn to talk that it wouldnât matter how interesting what youâre saying is.
Which, I get. Iâm not immune to eventually losing attention to unfamiliar material. But thatâs why you listen; you pay attention and ask about what they just said if you arenât familiar with it. If nothing else, let your brain perk away while you listen and wait for it to ring the bell of association! Until you get into some really arcane subjects, thereâs almost always going to be a point where something relates to something you already know, so itâs just a matter of being patient.
But, sadly, I think youâre right. Women simply get ignored, even by other women. Doesnât matter how much they know, how high their degree of expertise is. People tend to rank anything coming out of a womanâs mouth as less important. It certainly isnât the entirety, but I would agree it contributes, as you said.